Bridenstine vs. Sullivan

[Conan71]

Real people swill Gin.

Or beer.  Really really good beer.

[erfalf]

I heard this weekend a debate/shouting match between Bridenstine & Sullivan. Let me just say this, I have never in my life thought that there was single issue/attribute of a candidate that would keep me from voting for them, outside of literally breaking the law or something obvious like that. But after listening to that nonsense, there is no way Sullivan is getting my vote. He is a horses arse. Out of an hour long debate or so, I think he tried to bring up Bridenstine's private voting record (like you and I vote) 15 times. And they would get to shouting about it because Sullivan wouldn't shut up. Sounded like, well, a drunk (which he may have been for all I know). I still don't know a heck of a lot about Bridenstine except that he may or may not have been fired from the Air & Space Museum and he served in the military. It was a pretty sad display of politics.

[Hoss]

I heard this weekend a debate/shouting match between Bridenstine & Sullivan. Let me just say this, I have never in my life thought that there was single issue/attribute of a candidate that would keep me from voting for them, outside of literally breaking the law or something obvious like that. But after listening to that nonsense, there is no way Sullivan is getting my vote. He is a horses arse. Out of an hour long debate or so, I think he tried to bring up Bridenstine's private voting record (like you and I vote) 15 times. And they would get to shouting about it because Sullivan wouldn't shut up. Sounded like, well, a drunk (which he may have been for all I know). I still don't know a heck of a lot about Bridenstine except that he may or may not have been fired from the Air & Space Museum and he served in the military. It was a pretty sad display of politics.

Yep, he's got the Okie in him....

[heironymouspasparagus]

I heard this weekend a debate/shouting match between Bridenstine & Sullivan. Let me just say this, I have never in my life thought that there was single issue/attribute of a candidate that would keep me from voting for them, outside of literally breaking the law or something obvious like that. But after listening to that nonsense, there is no way Sullivan is getting my vote. He is a horses arse. Out of an hour long debate or so, I think he tried to bring up Bridenstine's private voting record (like you and I vote) 15 times. And they would get to shouting about it because Sullivan wouldn't shut up. Sounded like, well, a drunk (which he may have been for all I know). I still don't know a heck of a lot about Bridenstine except that he may or may not have been fired from the Air & Space Museum and he served in the military. It was a pretty sad display of politics.

Sullivan (the obviously unrepentant alcoholic) is a student of Fred Davis (mentioned earlier) who is also the inspiration for the "dirty tricks" campaigns of Jim Inhofe and others.  And also Inhofe's cousin in some way (marriage, birth, etc).

But he is such a "good" public servant, the 1st district keeps on putting him there.  I know darn good an well there is something being added to the Tulsa water supply....

[Teatownclown]

I heard this weekend a debate/shouting match between Bridenstine & Sullivan. Let me just say this, I have never in my life thought that there was single issue/attribute of a candidate that would keep me from voting for them, outside of literally breaking the law or something obvious like that. But after listening to that nonsense, there is no way Sullivan is getting my vote. He is a horses arse. Out of an hour long debate or so, I think he tried to bring up Bridenstine's private voting record (like you and I vote) 15 times. And they would get to shouting about it because Sullivan wouldn't shut up. Sounded like, well, a drunk (which he may have been for all I know). I still don't know a heck of a lot about Bridenstine except that he may or may not have been fired from the Air & Space Museum and he served in the military. It was a pretty sad display of politics.

Sadly, this obstructionist and admitted alcoholic has what's known as "dry drunkenness," a state of permanent inebriation, which basically makes him a nice guy but a lousy public official. Outside of securing minor Federal funding for the local jail, please explain what he's done for the first district. It appears to TTC me the "powers that be" in the Republican Party appreciate having a friend in Congress. By doing so, they advocate for obstructionism, side tracking, politicizing, lying, and filiblustering. He may find out that many in his potty are tired of weak legislating and inaction.

Heir, yes...it's called fluoride. No alternatives....DON'T DRINK THE WATER!!!

[Conan71]

Sadly, this obstructionist and admitted alcoholic has what's known as "dry drunkenness," a state of permanent inebriation, which basically makes him a nice guy but a lousy public official.

So that's Obama's problem.  Thank you!

[Teatownclown]

So that's Obama's problem.  Thank you!

Hey Conan, do you know what they title someone who lies constantly? You're getting there....

[Conan71]

Hey Conan, do you know what they title someone who lies constantly? You're getting there....

Binge drinker, drug addict?  Same past as Bush II or Sullivan, why is it Obama isn't a dry drunk?  Because he's your guy?  Oh wait, he's a wet drunk is that it?

[Teatownclown]

Binge drinker, drug addict?  Same past as Bush II or Sullivan, why is it Obama isn't a dry drunk?  Because he's your guy?  Oh wait, he's a wet drunk is that it?

I've only met Barack once. I didn't detect any poison on him. Sully? Let's no go there.

I believe POTUS Obama's drug of choice might be Provigil. It would be mine if I had his duty to country.

You need to get off the bath salts and beer, Coco Loco.

[TheArtist]

  I think Sullivan was going after the "number of times" Bridenstein has voted in recent elections because he knew Bridenstein was going to mention how often Sullivan has NOT voted for some reason or another (doesn't he have one of the worst congressional voting records?).  Someone the other day mentioned to me that we should at least keep Sullivan because of his seniority, but then I was like "What good is seniority if you don't show up and vote, do not head up or are not on any committees, (is he even allowed to be on them anymore, and if so why isn't he with all that seniority?) etc.?  The guy doesn't seem to do anything but collect a paycheck and come up with  nuisance regulations/government intrusions that benefit his donors and hurt others. (can get into that later).  My question might be then, do we want a Republican in office like Bridenstein that might actually show up and do something? lol 

[Conan71]

  I think Sullivan was going after the "number of times" Bridenstein has voted in recent elections because he knew Bridenstein was going to mention how often Sullivan has NOT voted for some reason or another (doesn't he have one of the worst congressional voting records?).  Someone the other day mentioned to me that we should at least keep Sullivan because of his seniority, but then I was like "What good is seniority if you don't show up and vote, do not head up or are not on any committees, (is he even allowed to be on them anymore, and if so why isn't he with all that seniority?) etc.?  The guy doesn't seem to do anything but collect a paycheck and come up with  nuisance regulations/government intrusions that benefit his donors and hurt others. (can get into that later).  My question might be then, do we want a Republican in office like Bridenstein that might actually show up and do something? lol 

I think Artist nailed it.

[erfalf]

 I think Sullivan was going after the "number of times" Bridenstein has voted in recent elections because he knew Bridenstein was going to mention how often Sullivan has NOT voted for some reason or another (doesn't he have one of the worst congressional voting records?).  Someone the other day mentioned to me that we should at least keep Sullivan because of his seniority, but then I was like "What good is seniority if you don't show up and vote, do not head up or are not on any committees, (is he even allowed to be on them anymore, and if so why isn't he with all that seniority?) etc.?  The guy doesn't seem to do anything but collect a paycheck and come up with  nuisance regulations/government intrusions that benefit his donors and hurt others. (can get into that later).  My question might be then, do we want a Republican in office like Bridenstein that might actually show up and do something? lol  

I'm sure you're right about the attendance. They did discuss seniority. Bridenstine was trying to hit him on him supporting term limits, but he keeps running. Sullivan rightly countered by saying that seniority is necessary often times to get on important committees, so he's not going to sabotage Oklahoma's chance on getting on these committees. Personally, I don't think it is hypocritical to clamor for term limits then not stop running. It's like me not thinking we should be subsidizing businesses as a city, but if we stop, we're screwed because no one else is going to stop. Then, Bridenstine says well, you're not the head of any committees. Of course Sullivan is on the Energy and Commerce committee, one of the most important where spots on it are highly coveted. Odds are he wouldn't be head of that one, regardless of his record. The current head has been in office 25 years vs Sullivan's almost 10 years.

Honestly, regardless of why Sullivan brought it up, it was just nauseating to hear him act so unprofessional. It's no wonder Dem's & Repub's can't get along when two guys on the same side of the aisle can't even get along.

I was looking at his Wikipedia page, and it indicates that he voted to make the PATRIOT Act permanent, without any future option for Congressional review or revocation, which fortunately didn't happen. I didn't think any Congress could bind a future Congress, no matter what. Although everyone keeps extending it, so whatever...

[Conan71]

Bottom line on Sullivan is he's actually a fairly nice guy when you get him out of his role as a Congressman.  Professionally and intellectually, he's fairly dim which is ideal for a follower type.  He's the one who will toe the party line and go along to get along because many concepts are simply lost on him.  He's not a leader and never will be.  To borrow from David Brinkley's comments on Bill Clinton: "He's never had an original thought in his life".

Sullivan should welcome the opportunity to retire at 47 or 48 with a nice pension and full benefits, plus have the opportunity to make vastly more on K street or some government bureau back home in Oklahoma.  He's got the Okie in him after all.

[Hoss]

Bottom line on Sullivan is he's actually a fairly nice guy when you get him out of his role as a Congressman.  Professionally and intellectually, he's fairly dim which is ideal for a follower type.  He's the one who will toe the party line and go along to get along because many concepts are simply lost on him.  He's not a leader and never will be.  To borrow from David Brinkley's comments on Bill Clinton: "He's never had an original thought in his life".

Sullivan should welcome the opportunity to retire at 47 or 48 with a nice pension and full benefits, plus have the opportunity to make vastly more on K street or some government bureau back home in Oklahoma.  He's got the Okie in him after all.

He'll never live that one down...

[erfalf]

He'll never live that one down...

Nor should he...