Tell us why Romney will be a great president.

[Teatownclown]

Had he not appointed Voldemort's sister to cobble the thing together he might have gotten away with it.  Her double-dipping and false estimates eroded any public confidence there might have been.

Additionally U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli's argument before the court that caused them to laugh at him when he framed the mandate as both a penalty and a tax, and gave a performance that was so bad it made your skin crawl.

The failure of Obamacare is the fault of it's architects.

They are the great strategists. How else does one manipulate the system to get the outcome they desired originally in the Single Payer plan? Yes sir, they knew it would end up in SCOTUS and put up a weak argument to keep it OBAMAcare. You will see....

[Gaspar]

They are the great strategists. How else does one manipulate the system to get the outcome they desired originally in the Single Payer plan? Yes sir, they knew it would end up in SCOTUS and put up a weak argument to keep it OBAMAcare. You will see....

That's not a new hypothesis.  Many of the right wing nut-jobs proposed that they are using those Alinskiesque tactics early on, and the goal was two-fold.  To create a plan so burdensome that it couldn't' stand on it's own without a single payer foundation, and to create a financial burden so heavy that it would require the government absorption of other free market elements. 

Unfortunately, the plan all hinges on retaining the current liberal power structure.  Just as Keynesian Economics discounts individual thought, emotion and innovation, Alinski's tactics in social change discount the victim's awareness that he/she/they are being manipulated.  As it stands, the american public is around 70% against Obamacare and any further push to empower it would be a disaster.  We know we were played and want out.  Another interesting result of the way Obamacare was enacted was the re-birth of fundamental conservative candidates.  Unintentionally, Obamacare may be the best thing to happen to the conservative movement since boxer-briefs.

[AquaMan]

Oh, ....sorry...I thought this was a thread on why Romney will be a great president. Moving on.

[Teatownclown]

He creates a job?

[Gaspar]

Back on topic:
Tell us why Romney will be a great president.

This does seem to be a burning question, and RM deserves a response from those that intend to vote for Romney.

There is some evidence that he might have some valuable experience:

"While it is difficult, if not impossible, to get employment data on all of Bain Capital's investments, and not all of the data are perfect, it is possible to look at some of the successes and failures to get a sense of magnitudes.

Among Bain Capital's investments under Romney, the large job creators are clearly Staples and Sports Authority. Both of these were small, young companies when Bain Capital invested in them. Bain invested in Staples when it had only one store, so there were likely fewer than 200 employees at the time. Bain appears to have invested in the Sports Authority when it had fewer than ten stores. Unfortunately, there are no public data to say how many people were employed at that time. At the end of 1998, Staples had more than 42,000 employees, Sports Authority had almost 14,000, Gartner Group had almost 3,000, and Steel Dynamics had over 500. So at the beginning of 1999, when Romney left Bain Capital, these four companies alone employed almost 60,000 total employees. While some of the job growth at Sports Authority came from acquisitions, there is no doubt that these four companies created tens of thousands of jobs over the period.

Fast forward to today. By the end of 2011, Staples had about 89,000 employees. Sports Authority is now a private company. The last time it reported employee numbers, in 2006, it had 14,300 employees. In addition, Gartner Group had over 4,400 and Steel Dynamics had over 6,000 employees. Using the most recently available data, these four companies alone employed almost 125,000 total employees."

Bain Capital also successfully turned around several existing businesses during Romney's tenure. For example, Bain Capital bought Wesley Jessen Vision Care for $6 million in 1994. It had been a division of Schering Plough and was not profitable. Bain Capital and a new CEO turned it around and sold it to Ciba Geigy for over $300 million in 2001. When it was sold, it appears to have had 2,600 employees. Today, the company is part of Ciba Vision.

Overall, then, the companies Bain Capital funded under Romney have created tens of thousands of jobs using any measure.
http://www.american.com/archive/2012/january/how-many-jobs-did-romney-create-at-bain

After Bain, Romney was recruited to turn around the Olympics.  The games were facing a $379 million deficit because sponsors were pulling out. Because they were short on money and many venues hadn't been built yet, politicians, business leaders and International Olympic Committee officials were suggesting the games be cancelled or moved to another location.

Because of his record for turning around businesses in the past, Romney was asked to take over the failing Olympics; he became the CEO for the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in February of 1999.  He refused his salary and donated $1 million of his own money to the cause. He then streamlined the games by cutting costs and eliminating waste like fancy perks. Romney also brought in $180 million in revenue from new sponsors and broke the record for raising private money for an Olympics.

In the end, the games actually turned a $100 million profit.

The people of his state then elected Romney in 2003 to hopefully do the same with their state.  They were facing an immediate budget crisis. The state had an immediate $650 million shortfall and was facing a projected deficit of $3 billion the following fiscal year. 

Romney eliminated waste in government by cutting out duplication and inefficiencies. In one case he consolidated 15 human service agencies. Romney also cut the number of state employees. He raised fees but did not raise taxes and balanced the budget every year.

The unemployment rate in Massachusetts also fell from 6.3% when he took office in January of 2003 to 4.6% by June of 2007, and the budget remained balanced during his tenure.

Now there are negatives too.  Romney created Romneycare in his state, a program that provides minimum level of healthcare insurance coverage and provides free health care insurance for residents earning less than 150% of the federal poverty level.  The law also partially subsidizes health care insurance for those earning up to 300% of the FPL. . .but as with all social programs, the burden outweighed the advantage and after his tenure, the program evolved into a political power-grab.  The original program only affected a few hundred thousand Massachusetts residents, but now with multiple amendments may affect as many as 6,000,000 residents, and represents more of a vote purchase than a health program. 

The program today is far beyond it's original intent and wrought with graft and corruption.  Someone as astute as Romney should have been able anticipate that outcome.  I think that gives many conservative voters pause, and will certainly be a subject that requires analysis because it represents a tendency to seek government solutions over private solutions.

He has also evolved his stance on unimportant issues (at least to me as a Libertarian) such as SSM and Abortion.  For me those are side-show issues that have nothing to do with government, but they may point to a larger flaw, reflecting an inconsistency in his own convictions, or worse, the tendency to adopt positions out of popularity.  He must realize that he is no longer the Governor of Mass and the audience he is playing to is overwhelmingly conservative.  He better be comfortable defending what he says because he is going to be called to the carpet to do so. 

There is also the matter of the dog on his station-wagon. This is a hilarious story, but I think the most disturbing thing for the liberal elite is not that Billionaire Mitt Romney strapped a pet carrier to the top of his car, but that a man like Mitt would drive a vacation in a station-wagon full of kids. . .that's just icky.

So the comparison is between a man who has never signed a paycheck or read a small business balance sheet, and has demonstrated his business and economic ineptitude brilliantly, and a man who has more business and economic experience than 99% of the population, has built businesses from ashes, has turned deficits into surpluses and balanced budgets, and who views dogs as secondary citizens.

I'm not 100% sold, but I'm about 99% confident my vote will be for Romney.

[Teatownclown]

He rides a horse....(but it's dressage...not western)

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/colbert-mitt-romney-dressage-horse-olympics.php

[Townsend]

Just thought I'd throw this in there.

[Teatownclown]

RMoney will be a great President because not only Wall Street will be in his bed, so will the Mormon (church?) colony and the Ralph Reeds...YIKES!
http://news.yahoo.com/romney-breaks-small-town-tour-speech-faith-193331014.html


And you worried about Jeremiah. "Christ, you know it ain't easy" ....

[Conan71]

Hahahahahaha!!!  As if Wall St. isn't in Obama's bed?

Three words for you:

Gold Man Sacks.

[Teatownclown]

Hahahahahaha!!!  As if Wall St. isn't in Obama's bed?

Three words for you:

Gold Man Sacks.

But what about the Ralph Reed's and the colony of proselytizers? Do you really want to ignore that alliance? I seem to recall your outrage with Rev. Wright! Wrong?  

[Conan71]

But what about the Ralph Reed's and the colony of proselytizers? Do you really want to ignore that alliance? I seem to recall your outrage with Rev. Wright! Wrong?  

This was the same misinformation applied with Kennedy.  Is there any evidence Romney tried to establish a theocracy in Massachusetts?  That's a big fat NO.  Nice meme though.

[Teatownclown]

This was the same misinformation applied with Kennedy.  Is there any evidence Romney tried to establish a theocracy in Massachusetts?  That's a big fat NO.  Nice meme though.

You really are a dim  bulb to believe the state of Mass runs the world.... The WH? runs the world...and the LDS crowd will be all powerful with an alliance in the Ralph Reeds of the world. Just watch....and you thought Rev. Wright was wrong. Wake up. 

[Conan71]

You really are a dim  bulb to believe the state of Mass runs the world.... The WH? runs the world...and the LDS crowd will be all powerful with an alliance in the Ralph Reeds of the world. Just watch....and you thought Rev. Wright was wrong. Wake up. 

You are starting to sound like the morons who said a vote for Obama was a vote for Jihad within our own government.  Yeah, those Muslims sure showed us a thing or two and we are now all reading the Quran with a gun pointed to the back of the head. 

Oklahoma doesn't run the world either.  Yet the theocrats Oklahoma GOP keeps trying to turn our state in to a theocracy.  Ever hear of laws which came from the book of Mormon being passed in Mass. while Romney was governor?

Point being, the Mormons aren't about power and world domination and Romney doesn't govern by his church teachings.  Your blatant bigotry toward the Mormon faith is getting old.

[Teatownclown]

You are starting to sound like the morons who said a vote for Obama was a vote for Jihad within our own government.  Yeah, those Muslims sure showed us a thing or two and we are now all reading the Quran with a gun pointed to the back of the head. 

Oklahoma doesn't run the world either.  Yet the theocrats Oklahoma GOP keeps trying to turn our state in to a theocracy.  Ever hear of laws which came from the book of Mormon being passed in Mass. while Romney was governor?

Point being, the Mormons aren't about power and world domination and Romney doesn't govern by his church teachings.  Your blatant bigotry toward the Mormon faith is getting old.

Oh, I treat all religions just about the same....but the Mormons? I'm just using them to make a point about how two faced the Jeremiah Wright haters like you get by. It's not bigotry...it's true equivalency.

But I can understand why you want to make others out to be bigots...nice try but that stink don't stick to me like it does your household.

[Hoss]

Oh, I treat all religions just about the same....but the Mormons? I'm just using them to make a point about how two faced the Jeremiah Wright haters like you get by. It's not bigotry...it's true equivalency.

But I can understand why you want to make others out to be bigots...nice try but that stink don't stick to me like it does your household.

Oh boy...