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Started by Ed W, July 08, 2012, 08:53:35 PM

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Hoss

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 01, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
I think both are legitimate issues.  The birth certificate issue was satisfied years ago.


As for the tax returns, well, I personally would tell them it's none of their business and go take a flying fart at the moon!  But the current "ground rules" - which Mitt's daddy helped establish with his past performance - pretty much demands 10 or 12 years returns be shown.  So just show 'em.





That's likely the problem.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Hoss on August 01, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
That's likely the problem.


Probably.

I would tell them...well, I said what I would tell them.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on August 01, 2012, 10:47:30 PM
insufficient for the opposition.

And a fairly large cast of Republicans.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 01, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
I think both are legitimate issues.  The birth certificate issue was satisfied years ago.


As for the tax returns, well, I personally would tell them it's none of their business and go take a flying fart at the moon!  But the current "ground rules" - which Mitt's daddy helped establish with his past performance - pretty much demands 10 or 12 years returns be shown.  So just show 'em.


There may or may not be truth to McCain reviewing Mitt's returns, but it was of no consequence in rejecting him as a VP candidate.  McCain is considered a RINO in the minds of the more conservative wing of the party.  He couldn't pick another moderate and hope that the more conservative element would show up to vote.

Secondly, just because someone's father does something, doesn't make it a requirement for their children to do it.

The people who are concerned about why Romney isn't releasing 10-12 years of returns aren't going to vote for him in the first place so it's a non-issue. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on August 02, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
There may or may not be truth to McCain reviewing Mitt's returns, but it was of no consequence in rejecting him as a VP candidate.  McCain is considered a RINO in the minds of the more conservative wing of the party.  He couldn't pick another moderate and hope that the more conservative element would show up to vote.

Secondly, just because someone's father does something, doesn't make it a requirement for their children to do it.

The people who are concerned about why Romney isn't releasing 10-12 years of returns aren't going to vote for him in the first place so it's a non-issue. 

Then we have senate playboy Harry Reid: "I don't think the burden should be on me," he said. "The burden should be on him. He's the one I've alleged has not paid any taxes." But he would not expand on his sources.   Even though Romney has released his 2010 tax return, and it references the payments on previous returns, and he has had his financial discovery submission approved by the FEC,  Reid continues his pander to idiots, and on the Senate floor Thursday, Reid said, "The word is out he hasn't paid taxes for 10 years." 

Hey, an un-named senate official tells me that Harry Reid engages in sexual relations with dolphins. I'm not telling you who said that, but the word is out.  He's a dolphin folker!

What a bunch of children we've elected.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on August 02, 2012, 12:49:18 PM

What a bunch of children we've elected.

I've voted in every election for years.  I believe I can claim, due to where I've lived, that I've not helped anyone into office in quite some time.  (electoral college, et al)

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on August 02, 2012, 12:49:18 PM

What a bunch of children we've elected.


Very close to what I've been saying.  That's why I vote against incumbent every chance I get.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 02, 2012, 02:18:53 PM

Very close to what I've been saying.  That's why I vote against incumbent every chance I get.



So you won't be voting for Obama?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Conan71 on August 02, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
The people who are concerned about why Romney isn't releasing 10-12 years of returns aren't going to vote for him in the first place so it's a non-issue. 

I disagree. Not releasing the tax returns will cause people to not vote for him.

If Romney doesn't release them, the democrat PAC money will crucify him. It is an easy message to get out. "If Romney won't show them, then we shouldn't trust him."

This minor thing will become a major reason when he loses.
Power is nothing till you use it.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 02, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
The people who are concerned about why Romney isn't releasing 10-12 years of returns aren't going to vote for him in the first place so it's a non-issue. 

Other than the conservatives who have called on him to settle this issue and get it behind him, anyway.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

heironymouspasparagus

#85
Quote from: Conan71 on August 02, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
So you won't be voting for Obama?


That was a definite yes, until the last couple of weeks when Mitt started talking (foot in mouth disease).  Now, I am conflicted - my strong internal inclination to always vote against incumbent, contrasting to how he has shown that he is even MORE incapable of representing the US on the world stage than Blowbama - I just can't believe it!!!!!!!!  Geez, why don't the puppet-masters give us an actual choice JUST ONCE!!???  The frustration is massive.


P.S. - you have to know I am not a fan of Obama, not because of all the RWRE psycho-mouthic lies and nonsense, but because of his self expressed opposition to the Second Amendment (plus the Fast and Furious carp).  This term, though, he could easily have been mistaken for governor of Massachusetts while Mitt was there.  Some goofs, but mostly no worse than neutral on performance - about like Mitt...

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

#86
Quote from: RecycleMichael on August 02, 2012, 02:55:54 PM
I disagree. Not releasing the tax returns will cause people to not vote for him.

If Romney doesn't release them, the democrat PAC money will crucify him. It is an easy message to get out. "If Romney won't show them, then we shouldn't trust him."

This minor thing will become a major reason when he loses.

I disagree with your intolerance.  :P

Romney's supporters will counter with: "Why won't Obama release his college records? What was he hiding?"

Or simply go for the obvious: "President Obama wants you to focus on Mitt Romney's tax returns so you won't focus on 8.2% unemployment, $5 trillion more in debt, jobs fleeing the country, dinosaurs becoming extinct..."

Remember, there's a lot of anti-Obama sentiment out there, especially amongst those who think he's a "Moslum" bent on destroying the American way of life and our economy with his socialist and communist ideals.

There's going to be plenty of fodder for the Super PAC's for both candidates this year.  I can't wait for Romney to get this thing won so we can get on to sniping about how he stole the election from Obama.

The only thing I'm unsure about at this point is which candidate most moderates will view as being able to get the economy out of it's extended funk.

Those are the only votes in play, pretty obviously.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

#87
Quote from: Conan71 on August 02, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
I can't wait for Romney to get this thing won so we can get on to sniping about how he stole the election from Obama.

Fortunately, that's seeming exceedingly unlikely at the moment. Perhaps something major will happen and the survey data will change before then, but Romney's been on the decline over the past month. Apparently it will take another meltdown to unseat Obama. In an ideal world, they could both love right off back to where they came from. They're both part of the party of no-(big)-business-left-behind.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 02, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Fortunately, that's seeming exceedingly unlikely at the moment. Perhaps something major will happen and the survey data will change before then, but Romney's been on the decline over the past month. Apparently it will take another meltdown to unseat Obama.

Honestly, I could care less what poll data says at this point.  He still doesn't have a running mate.  I'd wait till October before I'd put much confidence in the polls predicting the outcome and I still don't believe the results of any poll except for the one on Nov. 6.

Of course you realize that due to precinct over-crowding, Democrats will vote on Weds. right?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

If you want to get your hopes up, be my guest. Things can change, but they usually don't change that much, unless the Iranians take hostages again...
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln