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Started by DolfanBob, July 25, 2012, 05:45:41 PM

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DolfanBob

The smartest people I know are on this forum. You guy's are the best number crunchers and I need someone to take a look at this video and see what you think. A old boss of mine is into this kind of start up business. And he e-mailed this to me today. Thanks, I can't wait to see what you say.

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AquaMan

I couldn't get through more than a few minutes. It has the smell of multi-level and the sound of midway carney. You just can't go wrong with starving children, babies and puppies. Someone with more patience than I can analyze it and determine its value. I am just turned off by the approach.

Thanks though. I look forward to the really smart posters to comment.
onward...through the fog

DolfanBob

AM. I get what you are saying. My friend has been involved with several muti level start ups and I thought after all he had tried that common sense would win over but I guess not.
Pre paid legal is the only one that I think actually worked out for him. He also did the Family of Eagles gold coins and Pre paid phone and Credit cards back in the 90s.
My new boss got involved with Monavie and really pushed it hard for close to a year and now I never hear about it from him. I am amazed that Amway is still around.
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Gaspar

I have friends that are Amway Diamond dealers and have made millions.  Here's the kicker though. . . It took them 30 years of very hard work and sacrifice.

Multi-level business is like any other business.  If you work really really hard at it you can become successful.  The problem is that people are typically attracted to it because they don't want to work really really hard, or invest much capital. They believe that somehow they are going to magically build a pipeline, downline, minion-force, that will continue to sustain them, but the drop-out rate is enormous, and so is the job of replacing them.  When you run out of friends, family and business associates, where do you go?

Over the years people have learned this, and a new lexicon has emerged to combat it, as has a new breed of multi-level schemes. The term "Ground-floor" is the primary selling tool now, because people have become conditioned to realize that only the initial investors in a multi-level achieve success, and as a result there are a growing number of multi-level business concepts designed to be in-and-out systems.  They emerge, gain the initial momentum and then disappear or re-brand as a new opportunity.

There is no wisdom in choosing a multi-level business concept over traditionally marketed businesses.  The workload to be successful is the same, but the participant must fight the stigma, and puts himself at significant risk of alienating friends, family, and business associates.  It's just not worth it.

Most traditional franchise opportunities offer a far better return on investment, and if the product is marketable it will achieve a significantly better reputation through traditional marketing.
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AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on July 26, 2012, 10:05:31 AM
I have friends that are Amway Diamond dealers and have made millions.  Here's the kicker though. . . It took them 30 years of very hard work and sacrifice.

Multi-level business is like any other business.  If you work really really hard at it you can become successful.  The problem is that people are typically attracted to it because they don't want to work really really hard, or invest much capital. They believe that somehow they are going to magically build a pipeline, downline, minion-force, that will continue to sustain them, but the drop-out rate is enormous, and so is the job of replacing them.  When you run out of friends, family and business associates, where do you go?

Over the years people have learned this, and a new lexicon has emerged to combat it, as has a new breed of multi-level schemes. The term "Ground-floor" is the primary selling tool now, because people have become conditioned to realize that only the initial investors in a multi-level achieve success, and as a result there are a growing number of multi-level business concepts designed to be in-and-out systems.  They emerge, gain the initial momentum and then disappear or re-brand as a new opportunity.

There is no wisdom in choosing a multi-level business concept over traditionally marketed businesses.  The workload to be successful is the same, but the participant must fight the stigma, and puts himself at significant risk of alienating friends, family, and business associates.  It's just not worth it.

Most traditional franchise opportunities offer a far better return on investment, and if the product is marketable it will achieve a significantly better reputation through traditional marketing.

Now that's well thought out and well put advice. My only disagreement is that the understanding of how multi-level works and the importance of being FIFO, so to speak, is not a recent revelation. My first experience was in the late seventies with a cash oriented pyramid scheme that used the same multi-level principles as Amway but was more blunt about its goals. It was just never clear where you existed in the time frame. You gambled and usually lost. I didn't participate and was excoriated by "friends". The police shut that one down (Ponzi scheme). They responded by shifting from cash to product oriented schemes that were more defensible but just exactly as you've described.

Make note. Multi-levels usually are heavily populated by those under 30 but operated by those over 50. The few who progress through your scenario are living off of those unaware of its pitfalls.
onward...through the fog

rdj

The newest one is a phone deal.  Can't recall whats they've called it.  It's all over Facebook today.
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