Freedom of information

[Gaspar]

RM: Any information I have requested has been by the legal request form.  I have them available and have help others with their use.  There has been no problem gaining access to the information if it is presented in person with a copy of the statue.  It is the governmental employees who are responsible to relay the information to inform the citizen. The law was enacted in order that we maintain a "government of the people" not a government of bureaucrats.    You may be next in line for a request.

Let me know what you need and I'll be happy to "research" it for you, most likely for free, but if I need to employ packet sniffers or decryption above AES, there will be a price.  

[nathanm]

Sorry, my price is a plane ticket to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. The work is free after that.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Just try to get information from the FBI.  Exercise in "it ain't gonna happen"....

[shadows]

Let me know what you need and I'll be happy to "research" it for you, most likely for free, but if I need to employ packet sniffers or decryption above AES, there will be a price. 

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I wonder if you have available the amount of sales taxes collected in the 2025 proposition up to date, the amount of such funds in the banks we are paying interest on, the amount of interest, and what schedule is in force to complete the projects voted for.   

[Gaspar]

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I wonder if you have available the amount of sales taxes collected in the 2025 proposition up to date, the amount of such funds in the banks we are paying interest on, the amount of interest, and what schedule is in force to complete the projects voted for.   

Not sure what you mean by "in the banks we are paying interest on?"

Through July, the sales tax had raised $451,498,218, with the cost of the projects totaling $542,340,913. 

As of June 30, the county had paid $123.5 million in interest on the bonds sold.

No ideas on schedules, you would probably need to ask Mr. Crow about that.  It would be a nice feature to be included on the website.

[JCnOwasso]

I will speak as a Government lacky who has answered about 15 FOIA requests.  As simple as a one page response, as deep as 1200 pages of purchasing records, thanks to GSA and their conference issues.  I do agree that records should be readily available for release, but you have to have something in there to make it a little painful.  And I don't say that to be sarcastic or bitter, I say that because I have seen some of the requests that haven't been successful in their request and it is nothing more that elaborate data mining.  The information requested is broad and non descript, so you are essentially giving them a haystack so they can try to find any needle, but if you look at the number of organizations that have the exact same request, and figure that everyone is spending 1-2 days in gathering all the information, it is a huge amount of tax payer dollars.   

But again, I cannot speak for the state.  OK is a little messed up.  We gripe, whine and moan about the federal Governments mismanagement of money, but we don't look at our own state.   

[shadows]

Not sure what you mean by "in the banks we are paying interest on?"

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I was looking for file information on the amount, if any, whereas we circumvent the “pay as you go” by using the statutory municipal bonding statue in starting the unfunded jobs, to prolong them for years. 

Thanks a lot for the current information. 

[shadows]

There seems be a discrepancy on the interpretation of the state statues by the State of Tulsa officials on the production of a request under  the “Open Records ” and “The Freedom of Information Acts”.  These acts were intended for the citizen to have access to the fundamentals of a Republic form of government.  Their purpose and intent is being circumvented by the governing body’s failure of providing information in a timely manner for the citizens to acquire the information that is demanded to sustain our systems of government. Being we are a late comer in exercising a republic form of government competing in a world with thousands of years of experience while we have an existence of just a little more than one hundred years.

The TW world again is pursuing in the Wednesday paper the crusade to make available the citizens records that inform the citizen by opening the locked doors with time locks on them.

Do the citizens of the state of Tulsa need free access to their records is it necessary for the self imposed locks be removed from the doors?   Do they want facts or lip service from their employees?