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[Conan71]

What does one's home or church have to do with government recognition of gay marriage, Conan? Or the chickfila thing, for that matter?

You are conflating issues, Nate.  Go find some Carib and get off the computer.

[Gaspar]

You bring up a valid issue.  At what point does observing religious tradition become discriminatory?  Whew, that could be a real barn-burner.

I would have to say when it involves the action of mistreating another individual based on his or her group affiliation.

[Conan71]

I would have to say when it involves the action of mistreating another individual based on his or her group affiliation.

I could agree with that.

[nathanm]

You are conflating issues, Nate.  Go find some Carib and get off the computer.

I'm not on a computer and they don't seem to have carib at dfw. If AA would hire some damn pilots I might manage to get somewhere I can buy some.

[TheArtist]

  I think people are missing a lot of the context here.  Most I know of aren't angry solely about what the guy said, but what he and his company actively does and supports.  Most I know of aren't even hung up about the marriage issue and are frustrated that that seems to be the focus.  

But back to that context.  It wasn't but a short time before his comments that it was all in the news, or at least was big in the news for the "gays" about the millions that Chick-fil-A has spent supporting organizations that have actively worked to,,, hurt people.  Through his company the owner actively supports organizations that promotes things he believes in, like putting people in jail for being gay. He financially supported the "Kill the gays" bill in Uganda. Works to actively promote the lie that all gays are mentally ill. Supports reinstating sodomy laws. Opposes efforts to reduce gay bullying. Pushes efforts to create laws that will make it illegal to broadcast any content that opposes his Christian values. Etc. etc. etc.  The marriage comment thing is just a fraction of a lot of other issues he and the organizations he supports promote and stand for.   His open comments in an interview soon after all this other stuff hit the news, only served as a lightningrod for the rest.   People were already upset before he said anything.  

It's one thing to believe something, to say something, and write something, but it's another entirely, especially on an issue thats so important, to then take the next step and actively try to DO things based on it that can really hurt people.  

People were saying they would boycott Chick-fil-A, not mainly because of the marriage comment, but mainly because your money would go to support those other beliefs and efforts to change laws and such.  It almost appears to be a tactic to try to change the subject to "well they are just all upset about what the guy said", rather than what it was originally and mostly about.

[nathanm]

What he said. I get side tracked too easily.

[Conan71]

 I think people are missing a lot of the context here.  Most I know of aren't angry solely about what the guy said, but what he and his company actively does and supports.  Most I know of aren't even hung up about the marriage issue and are frustrated that that seems to be the focus.  

But back to that context.  It wasn't but a short time before his comments that it was all in the news, or at least was big in the news for the "gays" about the millions that Chick-fil-A has spent supporting organizations that have actively worked to,,, hurt people.  Through his company the owner actively supports organizations that promotes things he believes in, like putting people in jail for being gay. He financially supported the "Kill the gays" bill in Uganda. Works to actively promote the lie that all gays are mentally ill. Supports reinstating sodomy laws. Opposes efforts to reduce gay bullying. Pushes efforts to create laws that will make it illegal to broadcast any content that opposes his Christian values. Etc. etc. etc.  The marriage comment thing is just a fraction of a lot of other issues he and the organizations he supports promote and stand for.   His open comments in an interview soon after all this other stuff hit the news, only served as a lightningrod for the rest.   People were already upset before he said anything.  

It's one thing to believe something, to say something, and write something, but it's another entirely, especially on an issue thats so important, to then take the next step and actively try to DO things based on it that can really hurt people.  

People were saying they would boycott Chick-fil-A, not mainly because of the marriage comment, but mainly because your money would go to support those other beliefs and efforts to change laws and such.  It almost appears to be a tactic to try to change the subject to "well they are just all upset about what the guy said", rather than what it was originally and mostly about.

First I heard of it was a few weeks ago on the KMOD morning drive.  Phil Stone made a wisecrack about "Well no wonder someone with a mens and women's name would be opposed to same sex marriage."  

At the time I thought: "Do we really care what Dan Cathy says?  I could care about as much as what Bono has to say about American politics.  Meh, some moron spouting off his social or political views at the risk of his business."

Thanks for shining more light on the issue.  

/edit- Not to doubt the veracity of what you are saying regarding who CFA funds, but I thought I would snope it and see if there's more to the story.  Perhaps because I find it incredulous (though not impossible) that there would actually be a foundation(s) which support hurting or killing gay people.  The snopes article is an interesting read.

[nathanm]

Some years back, I had a hard time believing all the crazy exit product that goes on in Africa, and to a lesser degree developing nations elsewhere. There are a lot of really foobared up people in the world. That's where TTC's anti-religion screeds have their kernel of truth. Messed up people have no qualms about using religion as a cover for their crazy. Sometimes they even believe it.

On the other hand, most of your garden variety churchgoers don't fall into that trap.

Anyway, there are quite a few retreats here in the US designed to suck the gay out of you. Sadly, people are often forced into them by family and so-called friends. Suicide is tragically frequent in many of them. WinShape funds some of them. They don't set out to kill people, though. Some Ugandans do.

[guido911]

A story about today's kiss in.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183234/Chick-fil-A-CFO-Adam-Smith-fired-verbally-abusing-employee-gay-rights-protest-Same-Sex-Kiss-Day.html

[patric]

Got to be a trademark violation in this somewhere...

[guido911]

You just knew this was going to happen:

http://supportcfarachel.com/

[Conan71]

Anyway, there are quite a few retreats here in the US designed to suck the gay out of you.

Unfortunate use of words or well-timed pun.

[patric]

You just knew this was going to happen:
http://supportcfarachel.com/

W: "I'm staying neutral on this subject... my personal beliefs don't belong in the workplace."

She's showing more integrity than her employer,
or for that mater, her boyfriend milking this.

[guido911]

Here comes the dooshbaggery:

[patric]

I would have to say when it involves the action of mistreating another individual based on his or her group affiliation.

TUCSON, AZ--(Marketwire - Aug 2, 2012) - The following is a statement from Vante:
Vante regrets the unfortunate events that transpired yesterday in Tucson between our former CFO/Treasurer Adam Smith and an employee at Chick-fil-A. Effective immediately, Mr. Smith is no longer an employee of our company.

Vante made it clear they took action against him directly as a result of his protected speech.  
Dont expect to put your kids through college from any future earnings from their stock.