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Started by RecycleMichael, August 05, 2012, 10:50:19 PM

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nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on August 07, 2012, 07:37:57 AM
He paid $4.6 million in taxes that year and the deduction from his wife's horse only amounted to $46 out of the $77,682 loss he incurred.

It doesn't matter if it was $46 or $76,000, most of us don't get to deduct our hobby expenses.

Conan, once again you're peddling bullshit. There has been plenty of hay made on Romney's policy proposals, at least insofar as that is possible with the incomplete and inconsistent proposals he has made. Just like with Obama's speech, however, you choose to hear what you want to hear. You ignored most of Obama's speech, and you ignore most of the criticism leveled against Romney. Maybe you know he's a smile candidate, so you're doing everything you can to justify voting for him to yourself?

As far as the gift tax thing goes, don't you think it's important for us all to know how that happened so that it can be discussed openly and fixed or not as the body politic sees fit? This secrecy is only damaging to us and his campaign.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 07, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
It doesn't matter if it was $46 or $76,000, most of us don't get to deduct our hobby expenses.

Conan, once again you're peddling bullshit. There has been plenty of hay made on Romney's policy proposals, at least insofar as that is possible with the incomplete and inconsistent proposals he has made. Just like with Obama's speech, however, you choose to hear what you want to hear. You ignored most of Obama's speech, and you ignore most of the criticism leveled against Romney. Maybe you know he's a smile candidate, so you're doing everything you can to justify voting for him to yourself?

As far as the gift tax thing goes, don't you think it's important for us all to know how that happened so that it can be discussed openly and fixed or not as the body politic sees fit? This secrecy is only damaging to us and his campaign.

I could care less about Obama's speech.  It's his pathetic economic record which keeps resonating with me.

But keep on peddling that bullshit, Nate.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Oil Capital on August 07, 2012, 01:56:07 PM
Romney should release more tax returns the day after Obama releases his college records.  ;-)

Right after Bush releases his military records...
Power is nothing till you use it.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 02:57:12 PM
I could care less about Obama's speech.  It's his pathetic economic record which keeps resonating with me.

If you consider turning -4% yearly real GDP "growth" into +2.5% yearly real GDP growth in the face of an instransigent House that refuses to do anything that might improve the economy pathetic, I don't know what to tell you. And for someone who doesn't care about Obama's speech, you sure do seem to fight really hard to pretend most of it didn't happen.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 07, 2012, 03:15:11 PM
If you consider turning -4% yearly real GDP "growth" into +2.5% yearly real GDP growth in the face of an instransigent House that refuses to do anything that might improve the economy pathetic, I don't know what to tell you. And for someone who doesn't care about Obama's speech, you sure do seem to fight really hard to pretend most of it didn't happen.

I think the Obama camp needs to shift the message again:

"Obama 2012: It could always be worse!"
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
I think the Obama camp needs to shift the message again:

"Obama 2012: It could always be worse!"

I think the GOP is already doing that.

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
I think the Obama camp needs to shift the message again:

"Obama 2012: It could always be worse!"

They already tried that one, but finally settled on "My second term couldn't possibly be as bad as my first. Forward!"
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
"Obama 2012: It could always be worse!"

If you redefine accomplishment as failure, there's nothing Obama can do to please you.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 07, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
If you redefine accomplishment as failure, there's nothing Obama can do to please you.

Thanks that's a good one. I've got tears rolling down my cheeks.  I even had to share that one around the office!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 03:45:11 PM
Thanks that's a good one. I've got tears rolling down my cheeks.  I even had to share that one around the office!

Crap!  Beat me too it.  I'll just roll my eyes.  ::)
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 03:45:11 PM
Thanks that's a good one. I've got tears rolling down my cheeks.  I even had to share that one around the office!

You're the one who chose the metric. If you're more careful next time, you might actually be able to cite something that's a failure rather than merely not exceptionally successful.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

RecycleMichael

"Romney 2012: Money is everything"

"Romney 2012: Leveraged takeover of America"
Power is nothing till you use it.

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on August 07, 2012, 02:57:12 PM
I could care less about Obama's speech.  It's his pathetic economic record which keeps resonating with me.

But keep on peddling that bullshit, Nate.

Well, it will no longer be the Dumbya economy the day after the election in November. Until then, it's still the fallout from pi$$ing away 3 trillion on war and tax breaks for the wealthy. The financial collapse was witnessed by Bush and Paulson et al....it was not unfolding under Obama's watch. Although, Obama did add enough confidence to insure against a total collapse after Bush said he was passing him the baton way before leaving for Texass.


OK?

Gaspar

Quote from: RecycleMichael on August 07, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
"Romney 2012: Money is everything"

"Romney 2012: Leveraged takeover of America"

"Obama 2012: Jobs are meaningless"

"Obama 2012: Don't get on my secret kill list!"

"Obama 2012: Vaporizing terrorists and fighting overcrowding at GITMO! . . .at least most of them were terrorists."

Happy Terror Tuesday.  I Wonder Who's Number Was Up Today?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Teatownclown

Gaddds Gassie....that's bad ju ju. Don't get any on you.