Let's talk Electoral College

[nathanm]

Anything you said beyond that is just left wing script.

I don't read from scripts, it's a hopeless endeavor. You can ask my drama teacher for confirmation on that one.

[Teatownclown]

80 days.... I got 311 electoral votes for Obama. It may get closer than that but not by much....


The mandate approaches....

[RecycleMichael]

The polling today says that every state but one will vote the same as last year (Indiana will go to Romney).

I guess it doesn't matter whether the candidate is John McCain or Mitt Romney. Obama beats them both by almost identical margins.

[Gaspar]

Once people get their Obamaphone, Obamamoney, and Obamafood it's nearly impossible to take it away.  The chains of dependence become more comfortable than the promise of opportunity.  The hopeless, jobless, and ambition-less will vote for President Obama, not because he offers hope, but because he offers rations. 

Teatown is absolutely right.  At this point it is becoming obvious that perhaps no other candidate can challenge this progressive momentum.

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. – Ronald Reagan

Voters who live off taxpayers are the Democrats' ace in the hole. The Democrats created big programs and never let the recipients forget it. This gives them an initial advantage of tens of millions of votes in any presidential election. – Joseph Sobran

Americans are so enamoured of equality they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom. – Alexis de Tocqueville

It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights – the "right" to education, the "right" to health care, the "right" to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery – hay and a barn for human cattle. – Alexis De Tocquiville

Very soon, the takers will outnumber the creators.

[Conan71]

I'm kind of fascinated with the claims that Democrats are being over-sampled in the polls and the rebuttal to it.  The only problems with polls at this stage is they all make the assumption that those who are polled will actually show up to vote.  I've always said, the only poll which matters is the one on the first Tuesday of November (Weds for the Democrats).

Obama needs to ensure that those who supported him in 2008 will show up this time.  He enjoyed a clear personality advantage over McCain as the Democrats are good at finding candidates who are more likable on a personal basis, while Republicans seem to choose someone who seems a little stiff or stuffy and is "all business".

Obama's key demographics (women & minorities) are those with the highest jobless rates and consequently those who suffer the most from high gas prices.  If they see him as not helping with their plight like they thought he would in '08, I suspect they simply won't vote rather than vote for Romney who they clearly aren't identifying with.

I suspect ACORN will be assisting in getting those people to the polls again this year.


New Republic takes on the claim of over-sampling by Republicans:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/107813/no-the-polls-arent-oversampling-democrats#

[nathanm]

There's right about a 3 point enthusiasm gap right now. That's why Romney isn't looking even worse than he already is, and is fairly typical. Romney's biggest problem is that he's starting to lose seniors. As far as gas prices go, apparently most women realize that Obama doesn't control them. Interestingly, when you break down the ALP results by income cohort, the only group Romney leads is the $50,000-$99,999 group. Obama is far ahead among the less than $50,000 group and a few points ahead among the over $100,000 group. By education, Romney only leads among the "some college/associate's degree" group. He leads the no college folks pretty handily and the bachelor's degree or greater group by a few points, basically mirroring the income breakdown.

[Gaspar]

I'm kind of fascinated with the claims that Democrats are being over-sampled in the polls and the rebuttal to it.  The only problems with polls at this stage is they all make the assumption that those who are polled will actually show up to vote.  I've always said, the only poll which matters is the one on the first Tuesday of November (Weds for the Democrats).

Obama needs to ensure that those who supported him in 2008 will show up this time.  He enjoyed a clear personality advantage over McCain as the Democrats are good at finding candidates who are more likable on a personal basis, while Republicans seem to choose someone who seems a little stiff or stuffy and is "all business".

Obama's key demographics (women & minorities) are those with the highest jobless rates and consequently those who suffer the most from high gas prices.  If they see him as not helping with their plight like they thought he would in '08, I suspect they simply won't vote rather than vote for Romney who they clearly aren't identifying with.

I suspect ACORN will be assisting in getting those people to the polls again this year.




New Republic takes on the claim of over-sampling by Republicans:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/107813/no-the-polls-arent-oversampling-democrats#

They will probably only make the Obamaphones available when you show up at the polls.
http://obamaphone.net/obama-phone

[nathanm]

I see you have a problem with the Lifeline program. Doesn't that date back to Reagan? You also seem to have a problem with saving money. It's cheaper to provide a wireless phone than it is a landline. (Not that it's free to the end user, anyway, but that's not as funny)

[swake]

There's stupid on both sides. Here's the real core of Romney's support, poor uneducated rural often racist white people, mostly in the south.

There's tons more out there.

[heironymouspasparagus]

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. – Ronald Reagan

So said one of the great 'growers' of government...

[Hoss]

Once people get their Obamaphone, Obamamoney, and Obamafood it's nearly impossible to take it away.  The chains of dependence become more comfortable than the promise of opportunity.  The hopeless, jobless, and ambition-less will vote for President Obama, not because he offers hope, but because he offers rations. 

Teatown is absolutely right.  At this point it is becoming obvious that perhaps no other candidate can challenge this progressive momentum.

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. – Ronald Reagan

Voters who live off taxpayers are the Democrats' ace in the hole. The Democrats created big programs and never let the recipients forget it. This gives them an initial advantage of tens of millions of votes in any presidential election. – Joseph Sobran

Americans are so enamoured of equality they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom. – Alexis de Tocqueville

It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights – the "right" to education, the "right" to health care, the "right" to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery – hay and a barn for human cattle. – Alexis De Tocquiville

Very soon, the takers will outnumber the creators.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

ODS - at it again.

[erfalf]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

ODS - at it again.

If anyone could explain the actual people's derangement, then that would be something.

[RecycleMichael]

Don't you find it funny that Obama gets credit for a government subsidized phone program started before he was President?

[Hoss]

If anyone could explain the actual people's derangement, then that would be something.

I'm talking about Gassy having it...

[Hoss]

Don't you find it funny that Obama gets credit for a government subsidized phone program started before he was President?

Funny how that works, isn't it.  could it be...ODS?