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Mitt Romney: “I was too important to go to Vietnam”

Started by Teatownclown, August 21, 2012, 11:50:12 AM

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Teatownclown

You really hate the fact that this draft dodger, RMONEY, is your candidate... tfb. He's called in Bushiveks neo cons for foreign policy.

Do you fail too, Gaspar? Are you an ex draft dodger?

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on September 14, 2012, 06:53:51 PM
Pretty sure the families of the four killed in Libya this week won't be forgetting about it any time soon.


Just like the 4,000 + families of the kids killed in Iraq shouldn't forget how Baby Bush sent their kids off to die for his (and Daddy's) own self aggrandizement.

And how we should avoid a repeat.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on September 17, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
I disagree!  Sirloin has far more flavor than fillet, but you need to choose a well marbled sirloin, and that's the challenge.



WHAT???  You of all people....

Sirloin is the steak for the great unwashed masses.  The first entry level steak suitable for consumption is T-bone.  The next step up is the rib-eye.  Above that - at the top - is the Porterhouse (combination of the best of all worlds.)  Filet is ok, but it really is just part of a larger, better steak.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

I prefer a properly cooked ribeye to any other cut of steak. Generally I use T-Bone or sirloin for delicious steak and arugala sandwiches.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 17, 2012, 02:56:36 PM

Just like the 4,000 + families of the kids killed in Iraq shouldn't forget how Baby Bush sent their kids off to die for his (and Daddy's) own self aggrandizement.

And how we should avoid a repeat.




Still a one trick pony I see.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on September 17, 2012, 03:09:02 PM
Still a one trick pony I see.

I think it's fair to talk about given that one of the candidates seems to be in favor of going to war with Iran.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on September 17, 2012, 03:10:35 PM
I think it's fair to talk about given that one of the candidates seems to be in favor of going to war with Iran.

I don't think anyone would have said anything had he been fair and said that it would be making the same mistake regardless of who we selected in regards to this single issue.

Anyone that thinks either one of these two would be more or less adverse to going to war is delusional. They may talk a good game, but...

At least Bush got permission from Congress (as he should have, regardless of the reasoning).
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on September 17, 2012, 03:10:35 PM
I think it's fair to talk about given that one of the candidates seems to be in favor of going to war with Iran.

So, are you against any candidate that would go to war with Iran?

Just a question. . .
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 17, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
So, are you against any candidate that would go to war with Iran?

I believe that a ground war is not necessary to prevent Iran from threatening others with nuclear weapons. Even if they do get them, Israel has its own stockpile and they've proven very good at defending themselves over the years. I have no problem giving/selling them arms should Iran attack them, which I don't believe is likely.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on September 17, 2012, 03:10:35 PM
I think it's fair to talk about given that one of the candidates seems to be in favor of going to war with Iran.

I was referring to the same stupid tripe of "Baby Bush" defending Daddy's honor.  It's old.  Really old.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

#40
Quote from: nathanm on September 17, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
I believe that a ground war is not necessary to prevent Iran from threatening others with nuclear weapons. Even if they do get them, Israel has its own stockpile and they've proven very good at defending themselves over the years. I have no problem giving/selling them arms should Iran attack them, which I don't believe is likely.

How do you feel about airstrikes, Hellfire, or our new upgraded tomahawks, or the new deep penetration missiles?
What if the USS Laboon just happened to be headed that way with shed-full?
Would you consider that a ground war or just a friendly volley?

I agree, Isreal is more than prepared to level Iran, but when that happens, what do you think our response should be?
 
Netanyahu keeps pleading with the president for a meeting next week, but with Letterman and the fundraisers, there's just no time.  
If diplomacy is the answer to preventing war in the middle-east, don't you think that should start with the country that has pledged to attack first?
Isreal has vowed to strike, with or without our help, and our president is dismissing them.  We are probably the only country that has the power to thwart a war, but instead we are more concerned about keeping our appointments with David Letterman and Jay Z. All Netanyahu wants is for the president to agree on a plan, and the president is afraid that no matter what he does, leading on this issue will put him in a positon where he has to follow through, so as on all foreign policy issues, he chooses to punt and see what happens.  I think current events would dictate that's not been working so well.


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Teatownclown

Quote from: Gaspar on September 17, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
How do you feel about airstrikes, Hellfire, or our new upgraded tomahawks, or the new deep penetration missiles?
What if the USS Laboon just happened to be headed that way with shed-full?
Would you consider that a ground war or just a friendly volley?

I agree, Isreal is more than prepared to level Iran, but when that happens, what do you think our response should be?
 
Netanyahu keeps pleading with the president for a meeting next week, but with Letterman and the fundraisers, there's just no time.  
If diplomacy is the answer to preventing war in the middle-east, don't you think that should start with the country that has pledged to attack first?
Isreal has vowed to strike, with or without our help, and our president is dismissing them.  We are probably the only country that has the power to thwart a war, but instead we are more concerned about keeping our appointments with David Letterman and Jay Z. All Netanyahu wants is for the president to agree on a plan, and the president is afraid that no matter what he does, leading on this issue will put him in a positon where he has to follow through, so as on all foreign policy issues, he chooses to punt and see what happens.  I think current events would dictate that's not been working so well.




Do I have to lesson you once again on Iran?

1) Persians are decent people. Their country is a theocracy with a little short pipsqueak for a mouth. He scares people who think he's really dangerous. The actual cleric who calls the shots has a committee. This group tends to believe in education and furthering the needs and desires of their people. They are not war mongers.
2) In 1980's war with Iraq cost to the Iranians was over a million lives. They wish never to return to such a situation. As a nation of historical and locational significance, their desire is to grow and learn. They are more civilized than any mid east country.
3) More than any other country in the middle east, Iranians come closest to what we have here in America with regard to stability. They have a right to self determination which means they do have a right to nuclear energy.
4) The world worries about the development of an Iranian nuclear weapon. The world has dealt with more devious countries who may have used the weapon for destruction were it not for containment.  Iran, again, has no use for attacking another country.

Israel is a proxy for the zionists, AIPAC, big oil, weapons manufacturers, and a faction of their country we will recognize as extreme (Likud). The real enemy in the Middle east is Hezbollah and Syria. What is really happening in the middle east with dictators overthrown limits aggression, wars, and chaos in the long run. Who benefits from such things as war? They are the one's behind this panic.

My opinion of Beni has changed further in the last week. I think he's a POS to try to politicize a "red line"...no logic other than to disrupt and distort....a proven GOP/Teabag strategy that will fail. I trust Obama a lot more than Beni the Mouth.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on September 17, 2012, 03:09:02 PM
Still a one trick pony I see.


Reality's a batch, ain't it?



It's like all the plaintive repetitive bleats from FoxFantasyWorld Amusement Park about a $500 million Solyndra failure compared to a $1 trililon dollar, 4,000 kids dead, Iraq failure.  Yeah...one trick pony and those are both comparable in scale...


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 17, 2012, 08:39:04 PM

Reality's a batch, ain't it?



It's like all the plaintive repetitive bleats from FoxFantasyWorld Amusement Park about a $500 million Solyndra failure compared to a $1 trililon dollar, 4,000 kids dead, Iraq failure.  Yeah...one trick pony and those are both comparable in scale...




And, as it relates to Faux News, I found this incredibly humorous.  Fox is so looking for Obama-turned-Romney supporters that last night they put this dude on:



...and obviously didn't research him or vet him.  Maybe McCain advisors are working in the Fox Newsroom now!  Bahahahahaha!

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on September 17, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
So, are you against any candidate that would go to war with Iran?

Just a question. . .

I am against any candidate who would is too eager to go to war...and you know which one that actually is.  Or one who would go to war based on the same kind of structure of lies that caused Colin Powell to consider his time in that administration as his biggest disgrace.  

And no, lest one be tempted to try to twist what I am saying about Iran - I happen to agree that they likely will have to be hit.  Soon.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.