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Democratic National Convention 2012

Started by Townsend, August 31, 2012, 09:40:22 AM

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nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on September 04, 2012, 07:29:07 PM
So in essence, both sides are calling the other side big government types. Gotta love politics.

Great, isn't it? The sad thing is that the Democrats are largely correct on that particular issue. :(
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Michelle Obama's speech last night was fantastic.  That's how you kick off a campaign.  It was a speech of praise for her husband and framed his political motivation based on a deep caring for his fellow man and his own family, but more importantly to me, she focused on the value of individual responsibility.  She was marvelous. She's come a long way from never being proud of her country.

Michelle gave a valuable and historic speech, that was the most memorable element of the night.  After that it was all down hill, with the same hype, blame, ridicule and fear mongering.  In the intro video at the opening there was one phrase that I think sums up the modern Democrat party, and rings true of this administration: "Government is the only thing that we all belong to."  Of course the Republicans are going to take everything away, and force women into servitude, put black people in chains, and kill the elderly.  We didn't hear any new plans or see any new course plotted, just Forward.

I am anxious to hear Bill Clinton's address tonight.  I was pleasantly surprised by Michelle's speech, and I'm sure that the introduction by Bill, a pro-growth Democrat, will also be uplifting.  Bill's economic philosophy is so different from President Obama's, that I am hopeful Bill lays out some objectives in his address that President Obama will have to either address or adopt if elected to a second term. If the remaining speakers could just continue the tempo and theme started by Michelle and hopefully Bill, they may receive quite a bump. 

Last night was the first time in my adult life that I've actually been proud of Michelle Obama.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

I personally liked San Antonio mayor Julian Castro.  Obviously, he's being groomed for bigger and better things much like Clinton's debut at the '88 convention and Obama's at the '04 convention.  He said one thing when he was being interviewed that I'm surprised the Obama campaign didn't find as an obvious 2012 campaign slogan: "Change takes time".

This segment was painful to watch.  How much longer will they allow this babbling idiot to be the voice of the DNC:

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on September 05, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
Michelle Obama's speech last night was fantastic.  That's how you kick off a campaign.  It was a speech of praise for her husband and framed his political motivation based on a deep caring for his fellow man and his own family, but more importantly to me, she focused on the value of individual responsibility.  She was marvelous. She's come a long way from never being proud of her country.

Michelle gave a valuable and historic speech, that was the most memorable element of the night.  After that it was all down hill, with the same hype, blame, ridicule and fear mongering.  In the intro video at the opening there was one phrase that I think sums up the modern Democrat party, and rings true of this administration: "Government is the only thing that we all belong to."  Of course the Republicans are going to take everything away, and force women into servitude, put black people in chains, and kill the elderly.  We didn't hear any new plans or see any new course plotted, just Forward.

I am anxious to hear Bill Clinton's address tonight.  I was pleasantly surprised by Michelle's speech, and I'm sure that the introduction by Bill, a pro-growth Democrat, will also be uplifting.  Bill's economic philosophy is so different from President Obama's, that I am hopeful Bill lays out some objectives in his address that President Obama will have to either address or adopt if elected to a second term. If the remaining speakers could just continue the tempo and theme started by Michelle and hopefully Bill, they may receive quite a bump. 

Last night was the first time in my adult life that I've actually been proud of Michelle Obama.


Huh....

Given the new picture under his name, and the above post, I can only surmise that Gaspar has been kidnapped and a doppleganger has replaced him.  Or he is stoned out of his mind, and I want some of what he has been smokin'....  (either barbeque OR the other stuff.)

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR GASPAR???!!!!   WE WANT HIM BACK NOW!!!


Have ransom demands been made yet??






"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on September 05, 2012, 08:41:13 AM

Bill's economic philosophy is so different from President Obama's, that I am hopeful Bill lays out some objectives in his address that President Obama will have to either address or adopt if elected to a second term.



As for that, I think the biggest difference between them is that while both understand the effects of tax cut/tax hike policy on economic recovery, only Bill was willing to implement what everyone knows should have been done.  Obama's biggest Fail to date has been caving in on the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.  We would have been in much better shape from a debt/deficit/recovery standpoint than we are now.  Every other President (except Bush, of course) followed the correct plan, and things worked much better in every other case.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on September 05, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
I personally liked San Antonio mayor Julian Castro.  Obviously, he's being groomed for bigger and better things much like Clinton's debut at the '88 convention and Obama's at the '04 convention.  He said one thing when he was being interviewed that I'm surprised the Obama campaign didn't find as an obvious 2012 campaign slogan: "Change takes time".

This segment was painful to watch.  How much longer will they allow this babbling idiot to be the voice of the DNC:



My wife said almost the same thing about Wasserface.  "Why is she there?"

I think tonight will offer a big boost to the Democrats.  Opening with a pro-growth guy like Bill Clinton can't do anything but fire up the base and bridge the divide between the moderates and progressives in the party, as well as the Clinton independents.  If they can keep the theme of Clintonesque logic flowing throughout tonight's assembly without reverting back to the emotionocentric presentation of dispirit scenarios we saw last night, they'll hit a home run.  Courting Clinton's praise and vision is about the smartest thing President Obama has done since taking office.  

Of course we know there will be no follow through from this pageantry.  The pro-growth private sector focused economic philosophy of the Clintons is simply too far from the pro-centralized / European economic philosophy and class warfare of the Obamas.  At least if he wins, he will be more flexible for Vladimir, and have 4 more years of Golf without worrying about getting anything passed in Congress.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

RecycleMichael

What is with the insistence that the word God be part of the party platform?

From wikipedia..."A party platform or platform is a list of the actions which a political party, individual candidate, or other organization supports to appeal to the general public for the purpose of having said peoples' candidates voted into political office or the professed opinion(s) proposed as part of law(s) or otherwise made into social policies.

This often takes the form of a list of support for, or opposition to, socially relevant, urgent, controversial, or complicated topics or issues. Individual topics, and a party's, person's, or organization's opinion on them are often called the "planks" of their platform in reference to a basic stage made out of boards or planks of wood, similar to what can be assembled for public speaking or debates to be held on.
"

It seemed to me a platform is a discussion of non-religious issues. That is exactly how I want my candidates and party to be discussing topics and issues. This is politics, not church. Demanding that God be included in the political statements is wrong to me.
Power is nothing till you use it.

AquaMan

On a positive note, there was no mention of the Devil either. Or aliens. Strange but true.
onward...through the fog

carltonplace

Quote from: AquaMan on September 05, 2012, 10:50:59 AM
On a positive note, there was no mention of the Devil either. Or aliens. Strange but true.

What about Elvis?

AquaMan

Surprise guest. He'll be dropping down from the rafters. Or plopping down...
onward...through the fog

Gaspar

Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 05, 2012, 10:45:01 AM
What is with the insistence that the word God be part of the party platform?

From wikipedia..."A party platform or platform is a list of the actions which a political party, individual candidate, or other organization supports to appeal to the general public for the purpose of having said peoples' candidates voted into political office or the professed opinion(s) proposed as part of law(s) or otherwise made into social policies.

This often takes the form of a list of support for, or opposition to, socially relevant, urgent, controversial, or complicated topics or issues. Individual topics, and a party's, person's, or organization's opinion on them are often called the "planks" of their platform in reference to a basic stage made out of boards or planks of wood, similar to what can be assembled for public speaking or debates to be held on.
"

It seemed to me a platform is a discussion of non-religious issues. That is exactly how I want my candidates and party to be discussing topics and issues. This is politics, not church. Demanding that God be included in the political statements is wrong to me.

I agree.  Rather a ridiculous subject for criticism.
Republicans pandering to the religious right is just that, pandering.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

And now, for a little humour during the DNC, as provided by the Onion:

Romney, Ryan Sneak Into DNC While Posing as Caterers:


guido911

Quote from: Gaspar on September 05, 2012, 10:13:07 AM
My wife said almost the same thing about Wasserface.  "Why is she there?"

I think tonight will offer a big boost to the Democrats.  Opening with a pro-growth guy like Bill Clinton can't do anything but fire up the base and bridge the divide between the moderates and progressives in the party, as well as the Clinton independents.  If they can keep the theme of Clintonesque logic flowing throughout tonight's assembly without reverting back to the emotionocentric presentation of dispirit scenarios we saw last night, they'll hit a home run.  Courting Clinton's praise and vision is about the smartest thing President Obama has done since taking office.  

Of course we know there will be no follow through from this pageantry.  The pro-growth private sector focused economic philosophy of the Clintons is simply too far from the pro-centralized / European economic philosophy and class warfare of the Obamas.  At least if he wins, he will be more flexible for Vladimir, and have 4 more years of Golf without worrying about getting anything passed in Congress.


Surprise. The poodle gets the Pinocchios treatment for her lies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/debbie-wasserman-schultzs-false-accusation-of-a-misquote/2012/09/05/bde6f37c-f78d-11e1-8398-0327ab83ab91_blog.html
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 05, 2012, 10:45:01 AM


It seemed to me a platform is a discussion of non-religious issues. That is exactly how I want my candidates and party to be discussing topics and issues. This is politics, not church. Demanding that God be included in the political statements is wrong to me.

The repubs are known to be the party of faith (fundies) and patriotism (jingoists).  The dems are known for other things. It's just a distinguishing characteristic.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 05, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
Bill's economic philosophy is so different from President Obama's,

Only in bizarro-world where Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist. Out here in the real world, they're pretty much the same. The only major difference is regarding bank regulation, which Clinton also "came to Jesus" about after they melted down and took our economy with them.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln