Infidels

[DolfanBob]

So this is the 14 minute trailer that has the Arabic people all in a uproar? If you haven't watched this, you should. The budget must of been about 10.000 dollars and the actors was way overpaid.
It's a good thing that Christians didn't take "Life of Brian" so seriously or England would have been toast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4&feature=related

[RecycleMichael]

Why would someone make this movie?

[Gaspar]

Why would someone make this movie?

Why would someone make Basketball or The Book of Mormon, or The Life of Brian, or The Last Temptation of Christ, or any other religiously critical, or comical movie? 

Because they are free to, even if we don't agree with what they have to say.

[Gaspar]

They suffocated him then dragged his body through the streets chanting "We are all Osama Bin Laden."



This was due to more than a 14 minute movie trailer on facebook.

[Townsend]

So blame organized religions or the individuals?

[Gaspar]

So blame organized religions or the individuals?

No.  It is the responsibility of the host nation to protect the foreign embassies on their soil. Libya and Egypt are to blame, and sanctions/penalties must be imposed.  Additionally, why were we not prepared to defend our embassies internally?  Both were in high-tension zones.  There will certainly be some inquiry and the State Department will have questions to answer.  It looks like Algeria and Tunisia embassies are in danger now according to the AP.  

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ALGERIA_US_EMBASSY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-12-07-23-29

[Townsend]

No.  It is the responsibility of the host nation to protect the foreign embassies on their soil. Libya and Egypt are to blame, and sanctions/penalties must be imposed. 

So blame the new governments?  The new governments who just came to power through violence?  Keep the peace you violent bastards?

[erfalf]

No.  It is the responsibility of the host nation to protect the foreign embassies on their soil. Libya and Egypt are to blame, and sanctions/penalties must be imposed.  Additionally, why were we not prepared to defend our embassies internally?  Both were in high-tension zones.  There will certainly be some inquiry and the State Department will have questions to answer.  It looks like Algeria and Tunisia embassies are in danger now according to the AP.  

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ALGERIA_US_EMBASSY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-12-07-23-29

I thought everyone was supposed to love the U.S. when we elected Obama. I'm not being serious, but I literally heard those types of things from people that were trying to convince me to support him in 2008. They didn't know why, they were just certain that the world would love him.

[Townsend]

I thought everyone was supposed to love the U.S. when we elected Obama. I'm not being serious, but I literally heard those types of things from people that were trying to convince me to support him in 2008. They didn't know why, they were just certain that the world would love him.

Now turn this statement around and put yourself in there.  Keep in mind what you've posted and try to see the crazy that is you posting this.

[Hoss]

Now turn this statement around and put yourself in there.  Keep in mind what you've posted and try to see the crazy that is you posting this.

I'll say this:  consider the source.

[Townsend]

TW FB post:

Tuesday killing's of U.S. Ambassador to Libya John Christopher Stevens is the result of "President Obama's failure to lead and his failed foreign policy of appeasement and apology," U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe said Wednesday.

Then he started screaming about all the gays getting married on military bases and the toaster in his kitchen that is laughing at him.

[Hoss]

TW FB post:

Tuesday killing's of U.S. Ambassador to Libya John Christopher Stevens is the result of "President Obama's failure to lead and his failed foreign policy of appeasement and apology," U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe said Wednesday.

Then he started screaming about all the gays getting married on military bases and the toaster in his kitchen that is laughing at him.

[Townsend]

No.  It is the responsibility of the host nation to protect the foreign embassies on their soil. Libya and Egypt are to blame, and sanctions/penalties must be imposed.  Additionally, why were we not prepared to defend our embassies internally?  Both were in high-tension zones.  There will certainly be some inquiry and the State Department will have questions to answer.  It looks like Algeria and Tunisia embassies are in danger now according to the AP.  

AP tweet: 

BREAKING: Libyan deputy ambassador says several Libyan security officers killed in US consulate attack

[Townsend]

US confirms its Libya ambassador killed in Benghazi

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19570254#TWEET225200

The US ambassador to Libya is among four Americans killed in an attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, President Barack Obama has confirmed.

Unidentified armed men stormed the grounds overnight amid uproar among Muslims over a US-produced film said to insult the Prophet Muhammad.

They shot at buildings and threw handmade bombs into the compound.

It has not been confirmed how the ambassador, J Christopher Stevens, and the others died.

"It is almost inevitable that this attack will put President Obama's foreign policy centre stage in the election campaign, at least for a while"



Protesters against the film also attacked the US embassy in Cairo on Tuesday night.

The Afghan government gave orders for the video-sharing website Youtube to be closed to the public until the offending film was removed but the site was still visible to internet users in the capital, Kabul.

Speaking at the White House, President Obama told reporters that the attack would not break the bonds between the US and the new Libyan government.

Libya's interim leader, Mohammed Magarief, apologised to the US over the killings, which he called "cowardly criminal acts".

Reports say a militia known as the Ansar al-Sharia brigade was involved in the attack, but the group has denied the claim, the BBC's Rana Jawad in Tripoli says.

'Asphyxiated'
Reports suggest that Ambassador Stevens and his staff went to the consulate in an attempt to evacuate the site after it was attacked.



Jonathan Marcus
BBC Diplomatic Correspondent
The killing of the US ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, along with three other US embassy staff, raises a host of questions about security, the prevalence of armed militias in the country and the whole trajectory of Libya's democratic project.

The Obama administration in Washington will want answers from the Libyan government about the scale of the security measures in place at its consulate in Benghazi and how demonstrators were able to get into the building.

More broadly the ambassador's death highlights the continuing instability in Libya as the country struggles to establish security and the rule of law.

The country is awash with weapons and armed militias - some of a salafist or extreme Islamic fundamentalist outlook - hold sway in many areas.

They were reportedly trying to leave the consulate building for a safer location when gunmen launched an intense attack, apparently forcing back security guards.

"The American ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets in their direction," a Libyan official in Benghazi told Reuters news agency.

The Libyan doctor who treated Mr Stevens in hospital said he had died of severe asphyxiation, apparently from smoke inhalation, with no other injuries, and that he had tried for 90 minutes to revive him.

He was the only American brought into the Benghazi Medical Centre and initially nobody realised he was the ambassador, Ziad Abu Zeid told the Associated Press news agency.

A second US man killed in the attack was named as Sean Smith, a father of two who was employed as an information management officer.

The names of the remaining two victims have not yet been released.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described Mr Smith in a statement as "one of the best".

Speaking to reporters later, Mrs Clinton said many Americans were asking how such an attack could have happened in a country America had helped to liberate.

"This was an attack by a small and savage group, not the people and government of Libya," she said.

The attack was condemned by UK Foreign Secretary William Hague as "brutal and senseless".

Safety concerns
Our correspondent says many people are still armed following the conflict that overthrew Gaddafi.


Film outrages media
Analysts say the attack will raise serious new concerns about stability in the country and the ability of the new Libyan administration to maintain security.

In June, two British bodyguards were injured in an attack in Benghazi on a convoy carrying the British ambassador to Libya. Red Cross and UN staff also came under attack this year.

Correspondents say the film at the heart of the row, which appeared on Youtube translated into Arabic, is highly provocative and insulting to Muslims.

A demonstration in Cairo on Tuesday saw protesters breach the US embassy and tear down the US flag, which was flying at half-mast to mark the 9/11 attacks.

An Islamic tenet bans the portrayal of the Prophet Muhammad.

Cartoons featuring the Islamic religion's key figure sparked violent unrest among Muslims in 2005 when they were published by a Danish newspaper.

Mrs Clinton said the attack on the consulate in Benghazi "should shock the conscience of people of all faiths".

[nathanm]

Now turn this statement around and put yourself in there.  Keep in mind what you've posted and try to see the crazy that is you posting this.

It's not as crazy and stupid as the crap the Romney campaign has put out. I sincerely hope that the Libyan government takes serious action against the people responsible so we don't have to.