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Started by DolfanBob, September 12, 2012, 08:41:57 AM

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erfalf

Quote from: Townsend on September 20, 2012, 02:13:15 PM
You've shown true talent for this.

I learn from the best.  ;)
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 20, 2012, 01:38:21 PM
Show me evidence that the Whitehouse made that claim. 

I already referenced the Washington Post. Google News is over there.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on September 20, 2012, 02:33:06 PM
I already referenced the Washington Post. Google News is over there.

There is not a single report, interview, or broadcast from last week to the effect that the Administration suspected this was a planned terrorist attack.

Not one.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 20, 2012, 03:02:08 PM
There is not a single report, interview, or broadcast from last week to the effect that the Administration suspected this was a planned terrorist attack.

Not one.

You are either misinformed or lying.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on September 20, 2012, 03:02:08 PM
There is not a single report, interview, or broadcast from last week to the effect that the Administration suspected this was a planned terrorist attack.

Not one.

You guys think this fits under rule 38?  199?

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on September 20, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
You are either misinformed or lying.

I posted the links.  I will eat crow if you can post a link confirming the contrary.

At this point I'm probably just straining my finger joints, huh?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 20, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
I posted the links.  I will eat crow if you can post a link confirming the contrary.

I already led you to water. Do you want me to drink for you, too? Using simple search terms on Google News and using the date range feature, it took about 30 seconds to find that which you seek. I'll give you a chance to look for yourself and retract your statement.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

I believe the official position on the matter changed only yesterday. I could be wrong. But I also know plenty in the administration including Obama himself were still towing the video line as of yesterday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/benghazi-attack-called-terrorist/2012/09/19/90e74b52-0290-11e2-9b24-ff730c7f6312_story.html
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on September 20, 2012, 03:30:11 PM
I believe the official position on the matter changed only yesterday.

That's completely irrelevant. Gaspar claimed that "[t]here is not a single report, interview, or broadcast from last week to the effect that the Administration suspected this was a planned terrorist attack." That is factually incorrect, and all it would have taken to disabuse himself of that notion was about 30 seconds on the Googles.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

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Quote from: nathanm on September 20, 2012, 03:35:46 PM
That's completely irrelevant. Gaspar claimed that "[t]here is not a single report, interview, or broadcast from last week to the effect that the Administration suspected this was a planned terrorist attack." That is factually incorrect, and all it would have taken to disabuse himself of that notion was about 30 seconds on the Googles.

I think the times said spacifically that
Quotefor the first time Wednesday acknowledged that last week's assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a "terrorist attack,"

How does that contradict Gas?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Gaspar

Quote from: erfalf on September 20, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
I think the times said spacifically that
How does that contradict Gas?

erfalf, at this point you are wasting time.  Nate is playing parce and quip.  It'll go on all day.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on September 20, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
How does that contradict Gas?

It doesn't. Of course, I didn't say it did, so I'm not sure what your point is. My point is that Gaspar is choosing to ignore reality in favor of some incoherent right wing narrative that's completely irrelevant anyway.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 20, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
Nate is playing parce and quip.

First off, the word is parse. Secondly, I'm not playing anything. This is serious business. If people believe and continue to repeat lies we can't have a rational and coherent discussion about where our country is, where it's headed, and what we can do about it. You may not see that as something worth doing, but I do. So keep deflecting from the fact you said something that is factually untrue if you feel you must, that's not even the point, so long as you stop repeating the lie.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on September 20, 2012, 04:13:32 PM
First off, the word is parse. Secondly, I'm not playing anything. This is serious business. If people believe and continue to repeat lies we can't have a rational and coherent discussion about where our country is, where it's headed, and what we can do about it. You may not see that as something worth doing, but I do. So keep deflecting from the fact you said something that is factually untrue if you feel you must, that's not even the point, so long as you stop repeating the lie.

I'm all turned around. What did Gas lie or mis-represent?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on September 20, 2012, 04:13:32 PM
First off, the word is parse. Secondly, I'm not playing anything. This is serious business. If people believe and continue to repeat lies we can't have a rational and coherent discussion about where our country is, where it's headed, and what we can do about it. You may not see that as something worth doing, but I do. So keep deflecting from the fact you said something that is factually untrue if you feel you must, that's not even the point, so long as you stop repeating the lie.

Then just post a damn link to prove your point instead of playing internet bully.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan