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Started by DolfanBob, September 12, 2012, 08:41:57 AM

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patric

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A map of all the places in the world that are currently either protesting or rioting against the U.S. :

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=201645180959880549419.0004c9a894dfb66defab9&msa=0

The scale of this makes you think the sorry video is only a footnote (and there is some speculation it was part of a larger, planned 9/11 assault).
The Egyptians have their own version of the Fox News Channel called al-Nas that translated the film to incite their audience.
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nathanm

Quote from: patric on September 15, 2012, 11:43:27 AM
The Egyptians have their own version of the Fox News Channel called al-Nas that translated the film to incite their audience.

Supposedly it was one of the Coptic Christian groups that translated it. There is apparently little love lost between the Coptics and the Muslims in Egypt.
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shadows

Quote from: patric on September 15, 2012, 11:43:27 AM
A map of all the places in the world that are currently either protesting or rioting against the U.S. :
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It is most unfortunate that it is recorded in our archives for the future generations to decipher whether we are right or wrong in interfering in governments that has existence through eons of time, being only newcomers touting our great experiment in a democrat-republic form of government.   We are winding again the doomsday clock as we again interfere with age old governments who have the ability to participate in space wars.  Like the Holy Roman Empire, that turns to Christianity in order to preserve the Empire, we are head strong in rejecting it.   Too we have become the assassin of their leaders. 
If one dares pull up the picture and enlarge it and understand how one would feel if this happens in your land.     
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre.
It is impossible to convert the mid-east when they have thousands of years of their history to rely on and pictures like this are written in the annuals of history.     


Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Gaspar

Quote from: patric on September 15, 2012, 11:43:27 AM
A map of all the places in the world that are currently either protesting or rioting against the U.S. :

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=201645180959880549419.0004c9a894dfb66defab9&msa=0

The scale of this makes you think the sorry video is only a footnote (and there is some speculation it was part of a larger, planned 9/11 assault).
The Egyptians have their own version of the Fox News Channel called al-Nas that translated the film to incite their audience.

That's remarkable!  But, I didn't see Chicago on that map?
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Conan71

Of course, all this unrest in the Arab world is Bush & Romney's fault.
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nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on September 17, 2012, 09:39:02 AM
Of course, all this unrest in the Arab world is Bush & Romney's fault.

Nah, it's actually the fault of a Coptic Christian and his Muslim enablers.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on September 17, 2012, 09:39:02 AM
Of course, all this unrest in the Arab world is Bush & Romney's fault.

We could blame all the religious leaders misleading their followers.

I blame them and humanity's ability to fall for these kinds of tailpipe/potato scenarios.


Teatownclown

Beni from Israel is probably the one stirring it up through the Mosad. AIPAC's got his back.


Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on September 17, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Nah, it's actually the fault of a Coptic Christian and his Muslim enablers.


There are plenty of offensive things in the world, and plenty of people to offend.  The basis may be race, religion, sex, or political affiliation.  How a person or society handles being offended or ridiculed is what's important.  We learn a lot about a people or a religion when we view the ways they handle ridicule.  Their response defines them.

You can't pin this on idiots speaking their minds, or engaging in their art.  The individuals perpetrating the violence are who is at fault.

We are not about to go stringing people up because of their words, or beheading them (as many of the Muslim clerics have requested that President Obama do).  We are not going to burn books, movies, or imprison actors and musicians because of what they say.  If you go on YouTube, you will find thousands of offensive videos about the prophet Mohammed.  You will also find a hundred times that score ridiculing Christ.  Hindus, Pagens, Sikhs, and Mormons are equally targets.

If we start blaming people for freedom of speech, simply because we want to avoid the conflict and controversy that comes with freedom of speech, we will surely lose that freedom on all fronts.

This was the fault of a group of radical murderous evil people.  Hopefully we can introduce them to our Drone program.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

erfalf

Considering all the rhetoric from the administration blaming this "film", I expect to hear shortly that they will be halting all production on the Bin Laden raid movie Zero Dark Thirty. Wouldn't that be "spiking the football" in the face of the organization that is responsible for all this violence, possibly inciting more violence? Just saying.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Townsend

Quote from: erfalf on September 17, 2012, 01:38:52 PM
Considering all the rhetoric from the administration blaming this "film", I expect to hear shortly that they will be halting all production on the Bin Laden raid movie Zero Dark Thirty. Wouldn't that be "spiking the football" in the face of the organization that is responsible for all this violence, possibly inciting more violence? Just saying.

Not sure.  Since you expect it, would it?

erfalf

Quote from: Townsend on September 17, 2012, 01:41:36 PM
Not sure.  Since you expect it, would it?

Just don't want the administration to make the same mistake this fellow appears to have made according to said administration.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Gaspar

Quote from: erfalf on September 17, 2012, 01:53:54 PM
Just don't want the administration to make the same mistake this fellow appears to have made according to said administration.

Good pont.  Since the protesters were chanting "We are all Osama Bin Laden," that film would probably insite quite a bit of violence that the administration, by their own logic, would then be responsible for.

I'm sure they've scrapped it and President Obama is now crafting a speech condemning those responsible for Bin Laden's death.

Has Seal Team Six been arrested yet?

http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Egyptian-Protesters-Scale-U-S-Embassy-Walls-Rip-3865961.php
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Teatownclown

Boy Gaspar, siding with our enemies is pretty low of you...but not unexpected for a Teaheadist.

Gaspar

Quote from: Teatownclown on September 17, 2012, 02:09:31 PM
Boy Gaspar, siding with our enemies is pretty low of you...but not unexpected for a Teaheadist.

Not I. 

Just figuring that if the administration is going to come down on Nikoula Nikoula for making this movie and represent it as the impetus for the violence taking place now, it would logically follow that if they were to release a movie that incites the exact same group of people they would take responsibility for that.  It's a rather simple connection.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.