Infidels

[Townsend]

Did I say otherwise, or is that your Obama reflex kicking in?

I was pointing out the website from which you posted.  Not the content.

[erfalf]

Neither, just pointing out your ODS.  You, Gassie and Gweed must be having daily meetings or something.

So you retort with a straw man?

[erfalf]

I was pointing out the website from which you posted.  Not the content.

Oh, I know. It is just funny. It's like my kids. Two people telling them the same things have different meaning. If brother tells sister, she has to verify with me and mom, even though brother was right from the git go.

[Hoss]

So you retort with a straw man?

Nope, just pointing out your ODS.  But I'm sure you already knew this.

[Townsend]

Oh, I know. It is just funny. It's like my kids. Two people telling them the same things have different meaning. If brother tells sister, she has to verify with me and mom, even though brother was right from the git go.

Pew Research has Obama +8.

Romney's pulled advertising from Ohio and Michigan.

This is over.  

[Hoss]

Pew Research has Obama +8.

Romney's pulled advertising from Ohio and Michigan.

This is over.  

Remember Reagan/Carter 1980.  Nothing is over yet.  But it's not looking real good either.

[Townsend]

Remember Reagan/Carter 1980. 

Barely.

I remember that Anderson looked like Bill Keane to me.

[Conan71]

Which still shows more approve than disapprove.

Except for a group where it really matters come November:

Still, in the current NBC/WSJ poll, only 41 percent of independents approve of Obama's foreign-policy handling, versus 53 percent who did so last month.

[Conan71]

Pew Research has Obama +8.

Romney's pulled advertising from Ohio and Michigan.

This is over.  

One reason the Romney forces may have pulled money out of Michigan is President Barack Obama's campaign and a political action committee supporting his re-election aren't spending here either, said Rich Robinson, director of Michigan Campaign Finance Network.

"You don't spend money if you know you're going to win or you know you're going to lose, and Obama hasn't spent five cents" in Michigan, Robinson said.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120906/POLITICS01/209060394#ixzz26wardgFB

[erfalf]

Remember Reagan/Carter 1980.  Nothing is over yet.  But it's not looking real good either.

Which is why I posted the poll earlier about Obama tongue in cheek. Polls are just opinion and are highly susceptible to manipulation. I believe up to the 2010 midterms hardly anyone saw the butt whooping coming except Rasmussen (again) and they were called lunatics.

Personally I am not particularly confident in Romney's chances, but I would never say that it was over.

[Townsend]

One reason the Romney forces may have pulled money out of Michigan is President Barack Obama's campaign and a political action committee supporting his re-election aren't spending here either, said Rich Robinson, director of Michigan Campaign Finance Network.

"You don't spend money if you know you're going to win or you know you're going to lose, and Obama hasn't spent five cents" in Michigan, Robinson said.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120913/NEWS15/309130243/President-Barack-Obama-takes-command-in-Michigan-poll-shows?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp

President Barack Obama, fresh off a Democratic National Convention in which the turnaround of Michigan's signature auto industry played a central role, heads into the final two months of the campaign with the state's voters solidly behind him.

A poll done by EPIC-MRA of Lansing for the Free Press, WXYZ-TV (Channel 7) and other media partners showed Obama with a commanding 10-percentage-point lead over Michigan-born-and-raised Mitt Romney, whose chances in the state may have been seriously hurt by last week's Democratic convention in Charlotte, N.C.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/poll-suggests-obama-swing-state-attacks-working/2012/06/27/gJQAv6746V_blog.html

A new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll out Wednesday suggests that in key swing states, President Obama's ad campaigns against former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney are working.
While nationally the two rivals are locked in a dead heat, in 12 expected battleground states — Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin — Obama leads by eight points in the survey.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-12/republicans-end-michigan-ads-pushing-wisconsin-onto-map.html

Michigan, Pennsylvania
Americans for Prosperity, a nonprofit group co-founded by the billionaire industrialist Koch brothers, last ran presidential ads in Michigan on May 13. The group stopped its Pennsylvania run Aug. 30 even as it continues advertising in the nine swing states, CMAG data current through Sept. 11 show.
Karl Rove, a former political strategist for President George W. Bush, identifies Michigan as a "toss-up," on an electoral map posted to his website. Yet neither Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies nor American Crossroads -- outside groups Rove helps guide -- has advertised there on Romney's behalf since Aug. 6, CMAG data show.
Conversely, Rove's map shows New Hampshire as leaning toward Obama even as American Crossroads spends money to advertise against the president in the state.

[Conan71]

http://www.freep.com/article/20120913/NEWS15/309130243/President-Barack-Obama-takes-command-in-Michigan-poll-shows?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/poll-suggests-obama-swing-state-attacks-working/2012/06/27/gJQAv6746V_blog.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-12/republicans-end-michigan-ads-pushing-wisconsin-onto-map.html

Don't bust my paradigm dude.

[Townsend]

Don't bust my paradigm dude.

Eh, it's not like I trust either candidate or party.  I just have to favor the side I fear less.

[Hoss]

Don't bust my paradigm dude.

You writing a song?

[nathanm]

I believe up to the 2010 midterms hardly anyone saw the butt whooping coming except Rasmussen (again) and they were called lunatics.

I don't believe that's accurate. Tea Party favorables were high at the time and I know the generic ballot was looking good for Republicans several months out. I don't have any recollection of specific state polls, though.