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Started by DolfanBob, September 12, 2012, 08:41:57 AM

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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on September 27, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Is it too late for the Dims Republicans to slip Hillary in as their the Democratic candidate?

FIFY

Gaspar

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This is just now breaking.  Two senior officials have confirmed that President Obama knew the Libyan attach was a coordinated terrorist effort and even labeled it as such internally, but covered it up.  I suspect he didn't want to cancel that very important fundraiser on the 12th in the battleground state of NV.

Excuse the source, but it's just now hitting the other outlets: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/us-officials-knew-libya-attack-was-terrorism-within-24-hours-sources-confirm/
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/fbi_still_not_allowed_in_us_embassy_5YwX4HbNjQkTPb8vmvJfEK
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

swake

Quote from: Gaspar on September 27, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
This is just now breaking.  Two senior officials have confirmed that President Obama knew the Libyan attach was a coordinated terrorist effort and even labeled it as such internally, but covered it up.  I suspect he didn't want to cancel that very important fundraiser on the 12th in the battleground state of NV.

Excuse the source, but it's just now hitting the other outlets: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/us-officials-knew-libya-attack-was-terrorism-within-24-hours-sources-confirm/

Buried at the bottom of the article:
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One intelligence official clarified to Fox News that there was not a "definitive" lead on who might have been responsible for the Libya attacks in the immediate aftermath, though officials had an idea of the suspects.
"It's inaccurate to suggest that within the first 24 hours there was a definitive calling card and home address for the perpetrators of the Benghazi attack. Potential suspects and data points emerge early on, but it still takes time to be certain who is responsible," the official said.

Not speaking publicly before the facts are known is usually considered a good thing, it's something that Romney would do well to learn.

erfalf

Quote from: swake on September 27, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
Not speaking publicly before the facts are known is usually considered a good thing, it's something that Romney would do well to learn.


But, knowing what he did (maybe he didn't know the specific perpetrator's names) and still out and out lying about the situation for over a week is alright with you?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Townsend

Quote from: erfalf on September 27, 2012, 01:49:25 PM
But, knowing what he did (maybe he didn't know the specific perpetrator's names) and still out and out lying about the situation for over a week is alright with you?

So you know that he was out and out lying to you?

nathanm

Ah, the clairvoyance. Apparently it's contagious!
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: swake on September 27, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
Buried at the bottom of the article:
Not speaking publicly before the facts are known is usually considered a good thing, it's something that Romney would do well to learn.


I'm not finding a mention of this on any of the respected journalism sites.  They must be making sure their stories are accurate so they don't have to put a fine print on it like Fox or the NY Post.

erfalf

Quote from: Townsend on September 27, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
So you know that he was out and out lying to you?

The Pres has been pedaling the "video" line, and that it was "spontaneous" for over a week. Is that not lying, considering his intel? What politically correct reason is there for this line?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

nathanm

If you pick and choose which words to listen to, yes.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Teatownclown

He had stated from the outset it might have been a terrorist attack.

bfd

swake

Quote from: erfalf on September 27, 2012, 01:49:25 PM
But, knowing what he did (maybe he didn't know the specific perpetrator's names) and still out and out lying about the situation for over a week is alright with you?

So you are saying the president has a duty to tell the public everything he knows or suspects as soon as he learns about it, got it. That does not seem wise in the real world.

When exactly did Bush hold his news conference to tell the American public that we knew where Bin Laden was way back in 2001 and that he over ruled special forces plans to go and get him?
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-4494937.html


erfalf

Quote from: swake on September 27, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
So you are saying the president has a duty to tell the public everything he knows or suspects as soon as he learns about it, got it. That does not seem wise in the real world.

When exactly did Bush hold his news conference to tell the American public that we knew where Bin Laden was way back in 2001 and that he over ruled special forces plans to go and get him?
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-4494937.html



That is a big difference. Withholding information and telling false information are different, you do understand that right?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Gaspar

It was an attack on American soil that took the lives of Americans.  Delay, is the only purpose behind misleading the public.  The only motive for delay, was a multimillion dollar fundraiser that night in NV and two more durring the following days.  Had he attended these after a Terrorist attack on the United States, it would have been despicable.

Instead, he labels the attack as the fault of a US internet filmmaker, and perpetuates that until today.  Says the attack was just "a bump in the road." 

Figure out a way to defend that.  This cannot be a template for how we handle attacks against America.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on September 27, 2012, 02:07:17 PM


Instead, he labels the attack as the fault of a US internet filmmaker, and perpetuates that until today.  Says the attack was just "a bump in the road." 


You mean "Some say/some may say Instead, he labels the attack as the fault of a US internet filmmaker, and perpetuates that until today.  Says the attack was just "a bump in the road." 

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on September 27, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
Figure out a way to defend that.  This cannot be a template for how we handle attacks against America.

I don't need to figure it out. I will commend Obama for not giving in to the shrinking violets who want to let terrorists dictate our actions and reactions, and instead letting the Libyan people deal with the attackers, which they are doing.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln