Mitt Romney... 47 percent will vote for Obama "no matter what"

[nathanm]

Bill freakin' Kristol is calling Romney out on this one and Conan seems to think it's just "the usual suspects" while Gaspar doubles down on stupid. And I used to think history didn't repeat itself...

[Conan71]

most American's agree that the tax code should be "reformed", even among the 47% of ALL Americans that are deadbeats and that refuse to take care of themselves.

You guys are wrong to try to sugar coat this. He actually thinks that half of the population of Americans that he wants to preside over are worthless and don't contribute.

No, I believe he was simply making the statement that people who favor entitlements over work have never voted Republican in the first place, if they even bother to vote.  I don't personally consider Social Security retirement benefits nor Medicare to be entitlements as someone worked and made compulsory contributions to the system to get the benefits.

The demographics from the last election illustrates what Romney is speaking of.  FWIW, in the 65 and over age group it was 53% to 45% McCain v. Obama.   In terms of income, those making less than $15,000 per year voted 73% to 25% Obama v. McCain, 60% to 37% in the 15,001 to 29,999 group and 55% to 43% in the $30,000 to $49,999 group all in favor of Obama.  People in those lower income brackets are more likely to be on some sort of government assistance.

I never heard him say they are worthless and don't contribute, did you?  All I've heard are loose and fast interpretations of what he "meant" by the liberal spin-meisters. 

Students and retirees know better than to fall for this tripe.

[Conan71]

Bill freakin' Kristol is calling Romney out on this one and Conan seems to think it's just "the usual suspects" while Gaspar doubles down on stupid. And I used to think history didn't repeat itself...

Desperate much?

Last I checked Bill Kristol has one vote.

[nathanm]

Last I checked Bill Kristol has one vote.

Yep, but when he's one of many conservative's conservatives calling out Romney on his idiotic statement, that's a pretty clear sign that it's not just a liberal tempest in a teapot.

[Conan71]

Yep, but when he's one of many conservative's conservatives calling out Romney on his idiotic statement, that's a pretty clear sign that it's not just a liberal tempest in a teapot.

It remains important for the country that Romney wins in November (unless he chooses to step down and we get the Ryan-Rubio ticket we deserve!). But that shouldn't blind us to the fact that Romney's comments, like those of Obama four years ago, are stupid and arrogant.

Indeed: Has there been a presidential race in modern times featuring two candidates who have done so little over their lifetimes for our country, and who have so little substance to say about the future of our country?  

Kristol doesn't appear to be much of a Romney fanboi in the first place.  Bill Kristol isn't going to influence my vote one way or the other. 

[RecycleMichael]

I hope Romney was using that stat and conversation while talking about the election and not governing. I hope he wouldn't be so stupid to say he won't ever worry about those in the 47% if he were to win.

But honestly, I don't think so. When he says they are moochers, I think he means it. It doesn't matter that the 47% is comprised of senior citizens, college students and people working in low paid jobs. Romney probably doesn't know any of those people except the rich ones.

He is getting attacked about his taxes, so he responds by talking about other people's taxes.

He might be the worst candidate for president I have ever seen from a major party.

[Conan71]

He might be the worst candidate for president I have ever seen from a major party.

2nd worst perhaps. 

The worst being the current incumbent, here are the accomplishments he's (not) running on:

-More people on food stamps than ever before.
-Gasoline is near $4.00 per gallon when it was under $2.00 when he took office, that alone is doing more to harm the consumer economy than anything else
-There are now 23 million unemployed and underemployed in this country
-Now $16 trillion in debt, and no concerted leadership on deficit reduction
-Has not been able to cajole the Democrat-controlled Senate into approving a budget
-The CBO tells us that Obama's signature legislation, the Affordable Care Act is now likely to cost twice as much as initial estimates in the first 10 years

[Townsend]

Romney Videos Top Two Million Views

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/18/romney-videos-top-two-million-views/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Mother Jones videos of Mitt Romney's closed-door remarks to donors have been viewed more than two million times so far on YouTube, in a sign of the potential impact on the 2012 election.

The main video – in which Mr. Romney describes nearly half the U.S. electorate as "dependent on government" and who feel "entitled" to various services, including health care, food and housing – had gotten nearly 1.7 million views as of midday. Other slices of his remarks to the group – on the economy, on his strategy for the election and other topics – had gotten more than 500,000 views.


Romney Says Comments 'Not Elegantly Stated'
According to a broader measure from video tracker Visible Measures, the various video clips have been viewed 2.4 million times overall as of noon. That figure includes views of about 130 clips in all — both the original clips and dozens of derivative videos.

The exact impact of the comments has yet to be determined. Mr. Romney described the comments on Monday night as "not elegantly stated," but basically stuck with his underlying message about the expanding number of Americans receiving government benefits, and the rising percentage who don't pay federal income tax. Both are common complaints among conservatives. Mr. Romney's language struck some conservative commentators as tone-deaf, however.

Note: Mother Jones now reports that the fundraiser was held at the Boca Raton, Fla. home of a private equity manager, Marc Leder, on May 17

[nathanm]

-More people on food stamps than ever before.

Yes, blame population growth and the continued lack of demand on Obama, not the Congress that refuses to do anything about the situation.

-Gasoline is near $4.00 per gallon when it was under $2.00 when he took office, that alone is doing more to harm the consumer economy than anything else

And now you're blaming Obama for the economy not being as bad as it was when he took office. You know very well that the only reason gas was that cheap was because oil prices were in the toilet because of the credit freeze.

-The CBO tells us that Obama's signature legislation, the Affordable Care Act is now likely to cost twice as much as initial estimates in the first 10 years

It didn't say that at all. You might check your dates again.

[Hoss]

2nd worst perhaps.  

The worst being the current incumbent, here are the accomplishments he's (not) running on:

-More people on food stamps than ever before.
-Gasoline is near $4.00 per gallon when it was under $2.00 when he took office, that alone is doing more to harm the consumer economy than anything else
-There are now 23 million unemployed and underemployed in this country
-Now $16 trillion in debt, and no concerted leadership on deficit reduction
-Has not been able to cajole the Democrat-controlled Senate into approving a budget
-The CBO tells us that Obama's signature legislation, the Affordable Care Act is now likely to cost twice as much as initial estimates in the first 10 years

You might as well go back to the election board and change to R. How you can fathom voting for this guy is beyond me.

Unless you don't plan on voting for him, then my apologies.

I however, have not cinched my vote for the incumbent, before you start in on that.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[Townsend]

First ad about it:

[erfalf]

And I won't vote for a "legacy" who thinks "middle income" is a salary of $200k to $250k per year...

So who is Rufnex voting for since Obama agrees?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/romney-middle-income_n_1883819.html?utm_hp_ref=business

[nathanm]

Conan, here's the deal. Romney's unfavorables are already incredibly high. People already didn't trust him to look out for anyone but the rich and didn't trust him on foreign policy. Saying stupid things like this isn't going to make people think that he's the one they should look to for solutions on Social Security and Medicare or anything else that primarily affects the middle class. That's a recipe for disaster.

This video is only echoing things he's already hinted at in public speeches. As I said before, I previously ascribed his more inane views to pandering, while this shows pretty clearly that his privately held beliefs aren't actually any different than the BS he spewed throughout the primary.

[erfalf]

Yes, blame population growth and the continued lack of demand on Obama, not the Congress that refuses to do anything about the situation.

I would think that the midterms in 2010 would be more than enough evidence that what Obama and the Dems were doing and wanted to do, were not popular and the general population felt needed stopping, which they did.

And now you're blaming Obama for the economy not being as bad as it was when he took office. You know very well that the only reason gas was that cheap was because oil prices were in the toilet because of the credit freeze.

Or oil prices are high due to a combination of EPA regs, administration willingness to demonize the oil industry, and quantitative easing? Let's not forget any of those things.

It didn't say that at all. You might check your dates again.

I agree. But just out of curiosity, are there any forecasts for the second ten years? I thought most of the "balancing" of the ACA was due to the fact that most of the benefits were postponed in relation to the revenue generating.

[erfalf]

The press pool at the White House was grilling Carney on Obama's "bitter clinger" remarks this morning. Funny stuff.