Biden v Ryan debate

[nathanm]

Note that the polling data is as much as 30 days old per his own methodology.

Hah, the pre-convention polls were so much different than anything that's come out in the last couple of weeks that it's almost funny Rove would base his predictions on old data. Romney is polling very, very poorly in state polls, although he was doing exceptionally well in the Gallup tracking poll for a few days. That seems to have also begun to shift. It's by no means in the bag for Obama, but Romney is going to have to do something rather soon, and I don't think a middling debate performance will cut it. He's going to have to absolutely eviscerate Obama in a way that doesn't pile on to the Romney-as-liar meme. (Funny and a little sad that the Obama team is taking a page from Rove's 2000 playbook)

[Conan71]

Wait for the debates before putting too much stock in the polls, though the swing state numbers just released have got to be troubling to the Romney camp.

[nathanm]

Wait for the debates before putting too much stock in the polls, though the swing state numbers just released have got to be troubling to the Romney camp.

With so few undecideds he's going to have to actively change people's minds, which is going to require a much stronger showing in the debates than anyone expects. I think he'll do reasonably well if he stays on message, but it's the off message ad libbing that gets people excited, so I don't see a great chance of him doing better than a tie.

[RecycleMichael]

I listened to Rush Limbaugh this morning say that "the polls are nothing more than main stream media lies meant to depress republicans so they won't vote."

Yeah, that's it.

[nathanm]

I listened to Rush Limbaugh this morning say that "the polls are nothing more than main stream media lies meant to depress republicans so they won't vote."

What else can he say when even reliably Republican leaning polling outfits like Rasmussen show Obama ahead?

[Gaspar]

I listened to Rush Limbaugh this morning say that "the polls are nothing more than main stream media lies meant to depress republicans so they won't vote."

Yeah, that's it.

But I don't get that.  If the polls keep saying my candidate is behind, that makes me even more motivated to vote.  Perhaps it's reverse psychology. . .or reverse-reverse psychology. . .or reverse-reverse-reverse psychology?

I'm so confused, I'm going to vote for Obama!

[nathanm]

If the polls keep saying my candidate is behind, that makes me even more motivated to vote.

Most people, not being engaged partisans, don't bother with lost causes.

[erfalf]

Most people, not being engaged partisans, don't bother with lost causes.

I would think even more people would just want to be associated with a winner.

[Townsend]

I would think even more people would just want to be associated with a winner.

Tough to do when you live in Oklahoma.

[erfalf]

Tough to do when you live in Oklahoma.

Some say...

Game ain't over yet, you know. 

[Townsend]

Some say...

Game ain't over yet, you know.  

I say.

Name a person you think, as an Oklahoman, you can associate with and is a winner.

[nathanm]

I would think even more people would just want to be associated with a winner.

Didn't seem to hold true in 2008.

[RecycleMichael]

I'm so confused, I'm going to vote for Obama!

My work here is done.

[Conan71]

I listened to Rush Limbaugh this morning say that "the polls are nothing more than main stream media lies meant to depress republicans so they won't vote."

Yeah, that's it.

The right suppresses votes by requiring identification.  The left does it with polls. 

[guido911]

The right suppresses votes by requiring identification.  The left does it with polls.  

Thread winner. But the Stern you tube clip sure was a close second.  Sorry if I took over forum policing.