New initiative to accomplish downtown master plan

[Admin]

The Tulsa Metro Chamber, City of Tulsa, and Tulsa County have hired a consultant to analyze the downtown efforts and coordinate downtown efforts.

The focus will be on implementing the downtown master plan. They will be in Tulsa the next few months to prioritize and try to move the identified priorities forward. No-one from the consulting form spoke today and no specifics were given.

[Townsend]

I thought someone was hired last year specifically to do this.

Is there extra?

[Admin]

No idea. This company started yesterday, and heading back to DC tomorrow. Then coming back/forth for a few months. There was a press packet but we're "not press." Maybe it had some actual information. City planning seems to know nothing about it either.

[Teatownclown]

The Chamber.... wow. Bribe users to come here? You still need other ingredients for success.

[patric]

Not the same guy the BA chamber hired and then mysteriously fired, is it?

[Townsend]

TW FB post:

The Virginia firm is being paid $70,000 for its services. The city, county and chamber will share the expense.

[rdj]

Can we start sequentially numbering these downtown plans?  What number will this be?

[sgrizzle]

Can we start sequentially numbering these downtown plans?  What number will this be?

No, this is the same plan. They are just paying $70k for some company to wave a magic wand over it.

[carltonplace]

Can we start sequentially numbering these downtown plans?  What number will this be?

No kidding. What happened to the PT plan?

[carltonplace]

No, this is the same plan. They are just paying $70k for some company to wave a magic wand over it.

Ah...like when we hired Jones Lang Lasalle to magically sell our TDA properties.

[DTowner]

I guess the Chamber/City is damned if they do and damned if they don't.  I like that they are trying to assess whether the downtown plan adopted just 2 years ago is adequate given the amount of new development underway even though it raises the question of how well thought out that plan was.  We complain that V2 suffers from lack of planning and vision, but then complain when a study for planning is undertaken.  While Tulsa probably has enough consultant reports obtained over the years to fill a floor of the library, this sounds like a very focused effort to assess where downtown is and what we can do to keep improving.  Ironically, this effort actually argues against passing V2 in its current form because the outcome of the study could/should be used to help develop future needs/ideas.

http://www.newson6.com/story/19741239/city-leaders-hope-to-build-on-momentum-of-downtown-development

[Townsend]

Grizzle - were you standing at the bar?

Once the plan is submitted back to the Chamber/City/County will anyone take action or will it be ignored?

[Teatownclown]

Grizzle - were you standing at the bar?

Once the plan is submitted back to the Chamber/City/County will anyone take action or will it be ignored?

It will be ignored as another out of state developer comes to town to attempt to save the day with an east end development. The city and chamber should stay the f away from acting as master manipulator. Free enterprise always moves us in the right direction. It's the invisible hand of capitalism that works best.

[Townsend]

It will be ignored as another out of state developer comes to town to attempt to save the day with an east end development. The city and chamber should stay the f away from acting as master manipulator. Free enterprise always moves us in the right direction. It's the invisible hand of capitalism that works best.

Sure, a Super Target or a giant Walmart with acres of parking would be a super example of capitalism working best to develop the east side.  Go capitalism with no rules on parking/development, go.