Presidential Debate, Round II

[erfalf]

Individual corporations you mean?

Amazing how hostile Democrats tend to be to the very institutions that provide the jobs they so desperately are trying to create to millions of their constituents.

[Townsend]

Amazing how hostile Democrats tend to be to the very institutions that provide the jobs they so desperately are trying to create to millions of their constituents.

Who's a democrat and who's hostile?  

NM, forget I asked.  You seem to have gone to the same medical facility as Gaspar.

[erfalf]

Who's a democrat and who's hostile?  

Obama and Obama.

[Townsend]

Obama and Obama.

Ah, figured I needed to change parties and grab a bat.

[carltonplace]

You left something out.  The word "Free." 

You are correct, individual freedom overrides government control for me.  That's just the way I'm wired.

Free to you means freedom from taxes and regulations.
Free to me means don't legislate my morality with your own and don't use discrimination to limit freedom to others.

[erfalf]

Free to you means freedom from taxes and regulations.
Free to me means don't legislate my morality with your own and don't use discrimination to limit freedom to others.

Likewise, people should be free to have their own morals without you assuming they want to push those on you.

[Townsend]

Likewise, people should be free to have their own morals without you assuming they want to push those on you.

That's the thing.  They do push them on others.

[carltonplace]

That's the thing.  They do push them on others.

From Mitt Romney's Website:
On Right to Choose: But while the nation remains so divided, he believes that the right next step is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade
On Women's health: As president, he will end federal funding for abortion advocates like Planned Parenthood
On Marriage Equality: As president, Mitt will not only appoint an Attorney General who will defend the Defense of Marriage Act – a bipartisan law passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton – but he will also champion a Federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman

[erfalf]

That's the thing.  They do push them on others.

By "they" you mean whom?

[Townsend]

By "they" you mean whom?

The exact "they" you mentioned

[erfalf]

Here's a question on freedom. Abortion being legal as it is, if for some fluke reason all the providers vanished. Is it the government's responsiblity to make this service available? I only ask because apparently stopping the funding to planned parenthood riles people up for some reason, as if that would stop abortions from occurring.

[Townsend]

Here's a question on freedom. Abortion being legal as it is, if for some fluke reason all the providers vanished. Is it the government's responsiblity to make this service available? I only ask because apparently stopping the funding to planned parenthood riles people up for some reason, as if that would stop abortions from occurring.

Taxing churches wouldn't make Jesus go away either but that would cause a motherscratcher of a ruckus.

[erfalf]

Taxing churches wouldn't make Jesus go away either but that would cause a motherscratcher of a ruckus.

Generally speaking non-profits/churches are exempt from income taxes, well because there is no income really. It's a non-profit. And they exempt from property taxes because the services provided usually are a benefit to the community. I'm sure you could find a few instances where they don't benefit society, but in general they do. While sometimes I think they should have to pay property taxes, but then again, the services provided are things that governments usually have to pony up for anyways, so instead of them paying taxes and the gov't subsidizing it, I'll just live with them not paying taxes. Besides, isn't property taxes a local issue. If Tulsa or Bartlesville got it in their head to start charging property taxes to non-profits, couldn't they do it?

[Townsend]

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[TylerBGoode]

Here's a question on freedom. Abortion being legal as it is, if for some fluke reason all the providers vanished. Is it the government's responsiblity to make this service available? I only ask because apparently stopping the funding to planned parenthood riles people up for some reason, as if that would stop abortions from occurring.

Planned Parenthood actually does more than just provide abortions. It provides cancer screenings, HIV screenings, counseling and contraceptives. There are reasons that people, and not just women, get riled up when Mr. Romney threatens its demise to appease the hands that feed.