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Started by Ed W, December 10, 2012, 09:14:48 PM

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Ed W

I saw this sign in the Hobby Lobby store in Owasso this afternoon.



Here's the smaller one at the bottom:



Please note that it says that by entering the store, you're giving them permission to search your person and effects, as well as your car out in the parking lot.  It was bad enough when the owners were trying to force their religious views on their employees, but now they apparently think that the concepts of due process and constitutionally protected rights don't actually apply in their stores.

I have to wonder if they'd feel differently if - and this is strictly hypothetical - local law enforcement wanted to look through their books for evidence of financial fraud.  Would they be screaming for their lawyers and demanding that their rights be respected?

Oh, and I was on the end of some hard stares from the sales people up front.  Photography may not be prohibited, but it's certainly unwelcome.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Hoss

Got two words for Hobbly Lobbly now...

The last one is 'off'.

The first one is left up to you to decide.

Didn't really go there anyway.  I guess Michael's gets any business for that specific SIC now.

Conan71

"We think birth control is an abomination but reserve the right to grope you."
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

patric

Just say no and leave.

They cant legally so much as touch you once you head for the door.
If they do, you have them over a barrel on criminal assault, false imprisonment and possibly strong-armed robbery charges.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

guido911

Must be you Owassoans. Is that even a word?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Ed W

Quote from: guido911 on December 10, 2012, 11:44:47 PM
Must be you Owassoans. Is that even a word?

"Owassoans" is so awkward.  Just say 'awesome' instead, particularly if you're referring to me.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Townsend

Quote from: Ed W on December 11, 2012, 07:39:45 AM
"Owassoans" is so awkward.  Just say 'awesome' instead, particularly if you're referring to me.

"ow" and "a-s-s"

Sounds like we're talking about the proud metropolis of Hemorrhoid.

So Hemorrhoidians?

Hemorrhoidian Cheerleaders hate our fountains and cans.  Protect the cans.

Gaspar

Has no one ever seen these signs before??  You can buy them at office supply stores or online.  Used to be a big one year-round in the window of the Radio Shack at the mall, always thought it odd, because I couldn't imagine the zitty teenager searching a customer.

Typically, a store has the right to detain and search your person if they have suspicion of shoplifting.  They don't need a sign, but many stores post such signs durring holiday shopping season in a prominent spot as a deterrent. I worked at Petty's as a kid and our manager put up the exact same sign on every door, every year around Christmas.  Don't remember him ever searching anyone, except one guy who had 3 cartons of cigarettes in in pants that we had to tackle running across the parking lot.  Years later he was hired by Reasor's when the new store at 71st and Sheridan opened.  The only reason I knew that was that I walked in there one day in December and saw the same familiar signs, looked at the "wall of management" and saw his picture.  Don't think he's still there or that is necessarily a policy of the company, but it is their right as a private business. As a private citizen, you also have the right to refuse.

Next time you are Christmas shopping, look around at the entrance and exits, you will see plenty of these, or similar.  Hobby Lobby is just a raw nerve for folks so they are going to be sensitive to anything posted by management.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

#8
I also have the right to carry a pistola, a porcupine, squeeze bottles filled with urine and exploding dye cannisters in my shoulder bag. Please, search me. Let the battle begin.
onward...through the fog

Teatownclown

The Green's haven't paid much attention to Pappa John's, Chick Fillet, etc. Maybe the Supreme's saw the future and knew about Corporate hubris? Let these type corporations hang themselves. If Hobby Lobby plans micro targeting the few who believe this non sense then so be it. Arrogance will destroy their retail business eventually. You can't continue to grow promoting this crud.


AquaMan

I have a few minutes....That reminds me of a quote I read on an office wall recently, "I'll believe corporations are people when they execute them in Texas."

Those brands you mentioned are already damaged according to some in the industry. It won't show up immediately in sales but it will be reflected eventually.
onward...through the fog

Red Arrow

Quote from: Teatownclown on December 11, 2012, 10:11:33 AM




Do you have some statistical data on that "group of women in St. Louis" that would make that 61% more than a talking point?
 

patric

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 11, 2012, 10:55:37 AM
Do you have some statistical data on that "group of women in St. Louis" that would make that 61% more than a talking point?


Free birth control leads to fewer abortions
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55026886-68/women-contraception-abortions-birth.html.csp

Washington (AP) -- Free birth control led to dramatically lower rates of abortions and teen births, a large study concluded Thursday, offering strong evidence for how a bitterly contested Obama administration policy could benefit women's health.

The project tracked more than 9,000 women in St. Louis, many of them poor or uninsured. They were given their choice of a range of contraceptive methods at no cost — from birth control pills to goof-proof options like the IUD or a matchstick-sized implant.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Townsend

Quote from: patric on December 11, 2012, 02:16:42 PM

Free birth control leads to fewer abortions
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55026886-68/women-contraception-abortions-birth.html.csp

Washington (AP) -- Free birth control led to dramatically lower rates of abortions and teen births, a large study concluded Thursday, offering strong evidence for how a bitterly contested Obama administration policy could benefit women's health.

The project tracked more than 9,000 women in St. Louis, many of them poor or uninsured. They were given their choice of a range of contraceptive methods at no cost — from birth control pills to goof-proof options like the IUD or a matchstick-sized implant.


and:

Quote"It's just an amazing improvement," Dr. James T. Breeden, president of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said of the results. "I would think if you were against abortions, you would be 100 percent for contraception access."

sauerkraut

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