Mass Shootings the last six months

[patric]

Please don't establish that food has a sexual preference.

[dbacks fan]

Thanks for the reminder that I need to add breasts and wings to my grocery list.

[Teatownclown]

[heironymouspasparagus]

"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".... especially liars like Mark Kelly!

http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-gun-store-cancels-assault-rifle-sale-giffords-210756451.html


Kind of ironic how he is all about keeping "dangerous weapons" out of other peoples hands when his family has a dangerous animal they stroll around the beach with.  Come on, now, people - why does anyone need a pit bull or an American Bulldog...they are dangerous dogs that should be outlawed!  Or at least limit the number of teeth in the magazine ....er, uh, mouth!  How many people are killed and maimed every year by these dangerous animals?

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/03/25/gabrielle-giffords-husband-pulls-daughters-dog-off-sea-lion-in-laguna-beach/


I was surprised by how many American Bulldogs were involved in fatal attacks...so we know why the family has this dog - "protection".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

[heironymouspasparagus]

Interesting quiz.... 100%, of course.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/1104/How-much-do-you-know-about-the-Second-Amendment-A-quiz/Topic-of-Second-Amendment

[Teatownclown]

Try not to hate so much....

Mark Kelly has more sack than you.

And the quiz? Do you think "quizzes" should be used in SCOTUS cases?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Try not to hate so much....

Mark Kelly has more sack than you.

And the quiz? Do you think "quizzes" should be used in SCOTUS cases?

Uh, huh... right..... as if all his adventures and life history could somehow make him immune from being wrong?  And lying.


Did you even look at the quiz... CS Monitor comes up with some interesting things from time to time?  It is about as apolitical as one could expect.  It is a little check on what one knows about the topic - would you understand that concept??  Seems like it might be reasonable to know the little bit they cover when one is so vocal about a topic, don't you think?   Tell us about your 35% score.... which would make YOU wrong again.  As usual....

[Vashta Nerada]

I find it funny that we can have armed guards in our banks, malls, sporting events and grocery stores to protect our money, clothing, shoes, and professional athletes, but the concept of doing the same to protect the most valuable things in our lives, our children, is somehow distasteful.  

Good guys with guns are still the best defense against bad guys with guns.

....until that "Good Guy With a Gun" runs into 60-80 police converge in tanks and body armor.
Yesterday, A SWAT team in Wisconsin killed an escaping hostage:


The man shot and killed by police Saturday after an hourslong hostage standoff at a Neenah motorcycle shop was one of the shop's owners. Milwaukee lawyer Cole White identified the co-owner as Michael Funk, who White said was shot as he tried to flee from the gunman inside his store.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/man-killed-by-police-in-neenah-hostage-standoff-was-shop-co-owner-lawyer-says-b99629225z1-360721161.html

Police say one man ran out of the building with a weapon in his hand. Wilkinson says that man isn't the suspected gunman. He, however, failed to drop his weapons when officers ordered him to.

"And he was subsequently shot at by one or more officers on scene. We do not know if he was also shot at by the subject inside the building," Wilkinson said.
http://whbl.com/news/articles/2015/dec/05/neenah-police-arrest-one-person-after-hostage-standoff/



Oh and here's how "orders to drop the gun" apparently go when cops dont know there is video:

Police officers in the Tamir Rice case rolled up and fatally shot him so fast he had no time to hear or respond to any orders they gave.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cleveland-boy-tamir-rice-wasnt-reaching-pellet-gun-report-n474906
Previous reports concluded that officer Timothy Loehmann shot the 12-year-old within 2 seconds of opening his car door. The new analysis determined it happened even faster, within less than a second.

With the patrol car windows rolled up, Tamir Rice could not have heard commands to show his hands, Wobrock added.
"The scientific analysis and timing involved do not support any claim that there was a meaningful exchange between Officer Loehmann and Tamir Rice, before he was shot," Wobrock said.


Yet here is what police, unaware of video, claimed in their reports:

... I believed at first the male was going to run. I think I told my partner 'watch him he's going to run.' However, he stopped and turned toward our cruiser."

Garmback wrote that "part of my intentions was to keep him away from entering the Recreation Center Building." He stated he first saw the gun "about the time Ptl. Loehmann exited the cruiser. The male was pulling it from the right front area of his waistband. I thought the gun was real."

Officer Loehmann wrote that "the driving conditions were cold and wet, with a layer of snow (like a dusting). I estimated we were traveling about 10 MPH based on weather conditions. I saw the suspect pick up an object and stick it down into his waistband and he stood up and walked towards the Recreation Center."

Loehmann went on to write "I was fixed on his waistband and hand area. I was trained to keep my eyes on his hands because 'hands may kill.' The male appeared to be over 18 years old and about 185 pounds. The suspect lifted his shirt reached down into his waistband. We continued to yell 'show me your hands.' I was focused on the suspect. Even when he was reaching into his waistband, I didn't fire. I still was yelling the command 'show me your hands.'"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/12/01/tamir-rice-shooting-officers-statements-released/76629260/
Loehmann wrote that he fired two shots "based on 'tap-tap' training." After Tamir fell to the ground, he said he "didn't know if the threat was over.

ALL THIS IN LESS THAN ONE SECOND.

[Vashta Nerada]

Erato said Funk had a concealed-carry permit for a gun, but Erato doesn't understand why Funk wouldn't comply with police commands, as claimed by police.
Police Chief Wilkinson said between 75-80 officers were on the scene.

White said they have surveillance cameras on the property that might show what happened, but the Wisconsin Department of Justice has seized the footage.
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2015/12/06/victim-neenah-shooting-identified/76880850/

The victim had "an ongoing $50 million federal lawsuit against Neenah, Neenah police and Winnebago County," alleging "The hyper-militarized force parked an armored tank-like vehicle outside of Eagle Nation, stormed the building, bombarding the occupants with assault weapons drawn, screaming profanities and abuse, all while wearing plain clothes (ununiformed) and face masks," the lawsuit says.

During the 2012 raid, Funk was told to get on the ground. White said that Funk told police that he was lawfully carrying a concealed weapon. At that point, White said, officers pointed their guns at Funk's head, and one stuck his knee in Funk's back and handcuffed him.
http://gawker.com/hostage-killed-in-wisconsin-motorcycle-shop-standoff-wa-1746552381

The suit also questions the discovery of a small amount of marijuana seized in the raid, noting  "Suspiciously, the video recording in that office cuts out following the police entry into the room and then resumes only after the alleged discovery," the lawsuit says.
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/2014/12/01/raid-neenah-business-triggers-million-lawsuit/19765757/