Christmas Snowpocalypse 2012

[Conan71]

I'm sure Sauer still uses the Farmer's Almanac to do all his 'forecasting'....

Anyone hear what the models look like for the precip on Monday yet?

[sauerkraut]

What's the weather supposed to be like on Tuesday? I may take part in the "Polar Bear Plunge". It's a bruital event and a first for me. A two mile run and jumping into ice cold water. The big burrr. http://taturspolarbearplunge.eventbrite.com/#

[sauerkraut]

You're confusing weather and climate.  

No I am not, It's not me--  I am just going by what the global warming crowd says. One hot summer week means global warming is happening and is a fact as they claim!  Anyhow, the global warming crowd says the computer models show that in -whatever number of years 20, 40 or 50 the seas will be 20' higher the polar ice will be gone, Santa's work shop will be under water. The same computer models that can't tell where a storm system will go in 2 days. Heck the computers can't even get a long range weather report correct for a week or two ahead it's mostly just guess work. For the record I do not believe in global waming IMO it's a hoax.

[Hoss]

No I am not, It's not me--  I am just going by what the global warming crowd says. One hot summer week means global warming is happening and is a fact as they claim!  Anyhow, the global warming crowd says the computer models show that in -whatever number of years 20, 40 or 50 the seas will be 20' higher the polar ice will be gone, Santa's work shop will be under water. The same computer models that can't tell where a storm system will go in 2 days. Heck the computers can't even get a long range weather report correct for a week or two ahead it's mostly just guess work. For the record I do not believe in global waming IMO it's a hoax.

You sound like a broken record.

Oh, and a kook.

[RecycleMichael]

For the record I do not believe in global waming IMO it's a hoax.

It doesn't matter whether you believe in it or not. The ocean and soil temperatures are increasing.

You may agree or disagree that human's activities are causing it. But you can't deny it exists.

[ZYX]

No I am not, It's not me--  I am just going by what the global warming crowd says. One hot summer week means global warming is happening and is a fact as they claim!  Anyhow, the global warming crowd says the computer models show that in -whatever number of years 20, 40 or 50 the seas will be 20' higher the polar ice will be gone, Santa's work shop will be under water. The same computer models that can't tell where a storm system will go in 2 days. Heck the computers can't even get a long range weather report correct for a week or two ahead it's mostly just guess work. For the record I do not believe in global waming IMO it's a hoax.

Actually, they're very different computer models, as the ones we use to predict the weather don't go out more than a couple weeks at most. Besides, I believe a lot of the future predictions come from a collection of observations and data, not just computer models alone.

I believe in global climate change. I'm unsure as to how much human activity has to do with it, mainly because I am not educated enough on the subject to form an opinion. You need to wake yourself up, learn some facts, and educate yourself before you start spewing these ideas.

[Ed W]

My geology professor taught us that the Earth has normally been much warmer than it is at present.  We may be at the end of an ice age or merely in a brief warming trend between ice ages.  There's no way to know with certainty. 

But as Michael pointed out, soil and ocean temperatures are rising.  That's an incontrovertible fact, not a belief. 

[TurismoDreamin]

Saw this earlier today. I guess all that ice on Greenland isn't going anywhere at -78F!