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[guido911]

http://iiicitadel.com/index.html

[sgrizzle]

Pricing comparable to many downtown living projects which don't even have a moat option.

[Teatownclown]

http://iiicitadel.com/index.html

Chicken sh!ts unite!

Fear divides. Here's more proof.

Guido, this looks more like a mental hospital. Buy a unit!

[sauerkraut]

I'd avoid the downtown area. I don't like living near or in downtown, but that's just me. Everyone is different.

[custosnox]

If living in an affordable, safe, well-prepared, patriotic community where your children will be educated in school rather than indoctrinated, consider the Citadel.

Something tells me that they don't understand the word indoctrinate

[guido911]

Something tells me that they don't understand the word indoctrinate

Looks like occupy wall street folks, with the castle walls and sans @ss aroma.

[Red Arrow]

Something tells me that they don't understand the word indoctrinate

One person's indoctrination is another person's education and vs.

[nathanm]

One person's indoctrination is another person's education and vs.

Only if both of them have trouble understanding the english language.

[Red Arrow]

Only if both of them have trouble understanding the english language.

I'm going to have to disagree.  It's also not limited to America and the English language.

[guido911]

According to the website:

PROJECT LAUNCH: We plan to purchase land for the Citadel in 2013 and break ground soon after. Even before unveiling our national advertising campaign, more than 200 families reserved space within our community!

The indoctrination occurred before the place was even built?  Sounds like a gated community on steroids is all.

[nathanm]

I'm going to have to disagree.  It's also not limited to America and the English language.

I suggest a dictionary. It might clear up the confusion. I don't disagree that sometimes (for example) a school that purports to educate actually indoctrinates, but words have meaning. Our public schools do plenty of indoctrination, but it's mainly about respect for authority regardless of that authority's legitimacy, as opposed to indoctrinating people into a particular political view on the left-right spectrum.

[Red Arrow]

I suggest a dictionary. It might clear up the confusion. I don't disagree that sometimes (for example) a school that purports to educate actually indoctrinates, but words have meaning. Our public schools do plenty of indoctrination, but it's mainly about respect for authority regardless of that authority's legitimacy, as opposed to indoctrinating people into a particular political view on the left-right spectrum.

Words used to have meaning.  I have seen enough abuse/change of the English language to doubt that anymore.

From my dictionary:
The Random House Dictionary of the English Language, College Edition, 1968.

indoctrinate
to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc. 2. to teach or inculcate. 3. to imbue (a person) with learning.

education
1.the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge and of developing the powers of reasoning and judgement.  2. the act or process of imparting or acquiring particular knowledge or skills, as for a trade or profession. 3. ... 
-Syn... Education, Culture are often used interchangeably to mean the results of schooling.  Education, however, suggests chiefly the information acquired.  Culture is a mode of thought and feeling encouraged by education (the process and the acquirement)...

I believe there is plenty of room to cross the two. 

Things like math are pretty straight forward.  2+2=4, as long as you are dealing in base 10. 

A religious education is a good example to me of education for one who believes in that religion and indoctrination for someone of another belief. 

I am reasonably sure that Soviet Russia during the 1960s considered our education in our political system to be Capitalist Pig Indoctrination.  We considered their education to be indoctrination in Pinko Commie. 

[nathanm]

I believe there is plenty of room to cross the two. 

I still see a difference. Education is more like "here are the things that are in this world". Indoctrination is more like "here are the things that are in this world and this is why one of them is nearly perfect and the others are complete smile". Education tells you what is. Indoctrination tells you what to think about what is.

[TulsaRufnex]

[Red Arrow]

I still see a difference. Education is more like "here are the things that are in this world". Indoctrination is more like "here are the things that are in this world and this is why one of them is nearly perfect and the others are complete smile". Education tells you what is. Indoctrination tells you what to think about what is.

In a perfect world, you might be right.