Tulsa World Sold

[swake]

Agreed on his plan. And I'm not happy with their current web/mobile offerings so I'm kinda happy with that part. I can't stand their iPad app. I am not an app developer but I'm pretty sure I've stayed at enough holiday inns to make a better ipad app than that. You can even tap on "continued on A-8" to get to the rest of an article. You have to pull out the menu, go to today's paper, go to section A, got page 8.. pancakes srsly

Somebody spent nearly 45 minutes writing that app. You are going to hurt some feeling here.

Seriously it sucks. Donkey balls.

[swake]

A satirical stab at media influence, not how someone runs or tanks a business is what I was getting at.  From a pure historical perspective, if BH actually now owns 80 dailies, that would be more than WH Hearst owned at the height of his empire in the 19 teens.

You apparently took my post more serious than intended.  During the election, supposedly we couldn't count on Clear Channel to give us the straight scoop on Mitt Romney since Bain owned them.  Murdoch has been a favorite bogeyman of the left for quite a few years now.

That's not a fair comparison. I don't think he has any big city papers. From what I read he's buying smaller city papers that are still profitable and plans to maintain them. The WSJ alone has to have a bigger circulation that all these papers combined. 

[Conan71]

Hello, Swake???

A satirical stab at media influence,

Looks like I need to send some people a gift certificate for a sense of humor.

[swake]

Hello, Swake???


Looks like I need to send some people a gift certificate for a sense of humor.

Ah. missed that.

[JCnOwasso]

A satirical stab at media influence, not how someone runs or tanks a business is what I was getting at.  From a pure historical perspective, if BH actually now owns 80 dailies, that would be more than WH Hearst owned at the height of his empire in the 19 teens.

You apparently took my post more serious than intended.  During the election, supposedly we couldn't count on Clear Channel to give us the straight scoop on Mitt Romney since Bain owned them.  Murdoch has been a favorite bogeyman of the left for quite a few years now.

I fail at internet

[TulsaRufnex]

Wow,

Not surprising I guess. I wonder how long they keep doing seven days of print.

A much better outcome than Oklahoma City got with the Oklahoman being sold to Philip Anschutz to be just be part of his right wing propaganda machine.

Funny, but I thought anything would be an improvement over Eddie Gaylord.
In Major League Soccer circles, Mr. Anschutz is referred to as "Saint Phil."

[Teatownclown]

I am concerned the Cain's may be the next institution to go non locally owned....just a hunch.

[rdj]

A Tulsa World article touting the local family ownership is usually a signal of doom.

[custosnox]

I am concerned the Cain's may be the next institution to go non locally owned....just a hunch.

Last I knew (and this was some years ago) it was owned by a woman that lived in Florida, so you're a bit behind on your prediction there.

[Teatownclown]

Last I knew (and this was some years ago) it was owned by a woman that lived in Florida, so you're a bit behind on your prediction there.

Well, that's just idiotic.

Marie Myers is the only female owner.

She lived in Tulsa...sometimes in the back room office at Cains...with a bucket to pee in.

[Townsend]

Well, that's just idiotic.

Marie Myers is the only female owner.

She lived in Tulsa...sometimes in the back room office at Cains...with a bucket to pee in.

wiki post:

In 1976, the year after Bob Wills died, Marie sold Cain's Ballroom to rock concert investor Larry Shaeffer, also a Bob Wills traditionalist. His investment in Cain's focused on reviving the original elements and structure to its true historic roots. Late 1977 marked the re-opening of Cain's Ballroom with a concert by Elvin Bishop. Shaeffer's show production support was Little Wing.
The Sex Pistols were booked through Malcolm McLaren in early 1978.

After the Sex Pistols gig, Cain's enjoyed a wild range of successes primarily in music bookings and oddity performances. In the 1980s, Cain's embarked on a new Inter-continental fusion in rock history. Shaeffer took a business partner named Davit Souders who was influential in the underground 'New Wave' scene. Tucked away in Tulsa was a branch of this 'Post Punk' movement. It was connected to Cain's and the tradition of subversive music experimentation. Souders orchestrated the influx of international artists in this growing genre and solidified this emerging movement to Cain's.

Ownership of Cain's passed from Larry Shaeffer to The Finnerty brothers in the late 1990s. The new millennium has seen new ownership through Rodgers Properties in October 2002 hosting Doc Roc Productions as its show production team.

TW:

5 questions with Chad Rodgers, Cain's Ballroom manager

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectID=269&articleID=20110609_269_WK3_CUTLIN133264

http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectID=269&articleID=20110609_269_WK3_CUTLIN133264

Chad Rodgers helms one of the oldest and most successful - if not the oldest and most successful - venues in Oklahoma. Definitely in Tulsa.

He manages Cain's Ballroom, built in 1942 and bought by the Rodgers family close to a decade ago. It's consistently one of the highest-selling ticket venues of its size in the world and hosts an array of stars, from a super-rare early tour stop by the Sex Pistols to modern influential artist including Wilco and Brooks & Dunn.

1. What is your favorite late-night greasy spoon in Tulsa, and why?
I don't frequent any late-night greasy spoon places in Tulsa, unfortunately, due to my work schedule and my health. (I have Type 1 diabetes.) Of course, I am often at Cain's late at night, and we have lots of bands order late-night grub from Fat Guy's Burgers, Mazzio's Pizza and Joe Momma's Pizza.

2. What would you like most to see happen in Tulsa in the next year?

One of the most important things I'd like to see happen in Tulsa over the next year is that the first annual Brady District Block Party (Aug. 6) has a good showing as DCF Concerts and Doc Roc Productions (Cain's Ballroom) has worked hard to put together a great diverse music festival (Flaming Lips, Primus and more) that will bring people from all over.

3. What is your idea of a perfect weekend in Tulsa?

Relaxing in front of the TV and watching college football or a basketball game (college or NBA). If not watching basketball, I'd enjoy shooting hoops myself. If I'm not grilling at my house, my family and I enjoy eating dinner at Mahogany Prime Steakhouse or Osaka Steakhouse.

4. What has been your favorite music act at Cain's this year, and why?

Wilco. Need I say more. If you haven't heard of the band, people, you need to check them out as you're missing one of the best bands today.

5. How is Cain's Ballroom integral to the continued growth of downtown Tulsa?

Whenever my family and I bought the Cain's in 2002, there wasn't much going on in downtown, but it's a totally different landscape now. It seems like a new business is popping up every week, and it's great to see that, as downtown is critical for the health of the entire community. ... (In 2010) Cain's was responsible for bringing over 90,000 people to downtown Tulsa and the Brady District.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectID=269&articleID=20110609_269_WK3_CUTLIN133264

[custosnox]

Well, that's just idiotic.

Marie Myers is the only female owner.

She lived in Tulsa...sometimes in the back room office at Cains...with a bucket to pee in.

and you have known all of the owners over the years?

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[Teatownclown]

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/03/mainstream_media_meltdown/

Long article but a worthy read...I'll always cherish the days of throwing down the Tulsa Tribune or using the Tulsa World as kindle.

Mainstream media meltdown!
Newspapers will never be the same. But what happens to democracy if the Web business model can't fund journalism?


"The assumption is that there has to be a way to make profits doing digi­tal journalism if journalists and owners simply wise up and get with the program. Over the past few years, many American newspapers have been purchased on the cheap by hedge funds—nearly a third of the twenty-five largest dailies are now so owned—the subtext being that these business ge­niuses can generate profits where dummkopf journalism industry types have failed. As John Paton, the journalist-cum-CEO for a newspaper company purchased by the Alden Global Capital hedge fund in 2011, put it: "We have had 15 years to figure out the web and, as an industry, we newspaper people are no good at it." Apparently, neither are the hedge fund managers. David Carr wrote in July 2012 that "hedge funds, which thought they had bought in at the bottom, are scrambling for exits that don't exist."

"Armstrong's memo raises the question: What happens when a story— like that of a distant war or the privatization of a local water utility—fails to achieve proper "traffic potential, revenue potential"? What if no PR spin­meister wants to push it and provide free content? Does it disappear off the radar—and with it the ability of citizens to know what is being done in their name but without their informed consent? That might be a smooth ride for the CEOs, but it's a clunker for a democratic society."

"There is probably no better evidence that journalism is a public good than the fact that none of America's financial geniuses can figure out how to make money off it. The comparison to education is striking. When manag­ers apply market logic to schools, it fails, because education is a cooperative public service, not a business. Corporatized schools throw underachieving, hard-to-teach kids overboard, discontinue expensive programs, bombard stu­dents with endless tests, and then attack teacher salaries and unions as the main impediment to "success." No one has ever made profits doing qual­ity education—for-profit education companies seize public funds and make their money by not teaching. In digital news, the same dynamic is producing the same results, and leads to the same conclusion."

[davideinstein]

I think the local news stations will replace the newspaper.

[Teatownclown]

I think the local news stations will replace the newspaper.

Replace? Doubtful. Hard to list deaths, divorces, and personals. Unless, are you talking online? They're not journalists in the true sense of the occupation.