Queen Kathy - again?? JUST SAY NO!!!!

[RecycleMichael]

What are your goals here, local girl?

Are you looking to just use the forum to express opinions? Are you just trying to make enemies by attacking the regulars? Is this just a window you saw open and thought you would talk bad about other candidates to help your pick?

Not that you will take it, but I suggest you give some credence to posters before you assume they are out to get you. The many posters here represent lots of brain power and a wide variety of views. We can't agree on much politically, but we try to give each other reasons why we feel the way we feel.

When you write sentences like this..."but loathe her as mayor.  I believe she deems herself not a public servant, but more an overlord (enabled by lots of $-acquired influence.) I hate that in government! My opinions are based on my own perceptions of facts and events that I KNOW to be true because I was paying attention." ...you draw the ire of the posters that disagree with you.

You say you KNOW, I say you FEEL. Yes. You are entitled to your feelings, but you should know that others may not agree with what you write. 

[LocalGirl]

What are your goals here, local girl?

Are you looking to just use the forum to express opinions? Are you just trying to make enemies by attacking the regulars? Is this just a window you saw open and thought you would talk bad about other candidates to help your pick?

Not that you will take it, but I suggest you give some credence to posters before you assume they are out to get you. The many posters here represent lots of brain power and a wide variety of views. We can't agree on much politically, but we try to give each other reasons why we feel the way we feel.

When you write sentences like this..."but loathe her as mayor.  I believe she deems herself not a public servant, but more an overlord (enabled by lots of $-acquired influence.) I hate that in government! My opinions are based on my own perceptions of facts and events that I KNOW to be true because I was paying attention." ...you draw the ire of the posters that disagree with you.

You say you KNOW, I say you FEEL. Yes. You are entitled to your feelings, but you should know that others may not agree with what you write. 

Over how long period of time must I participate on this forum before I can make a statement like "Bartlett is a clueless bumpkin" or "Christianasen does not have a clue" without being called a mindless, partisan liar?

I made no assumptions about other posters; I simply responded. Can we now just begin to have mutually respectful discussions about issues on which we disagree?

[Conan71]

Don't lecture me about facts.  I've seen your glib, one-liner dismissals of facts you don't want to hear.  It appears to me you have a pretty selective definition of the word 'fact' anyway:

Damn, pegged Aquaman

[RecycleMichael]

Over how long period of time must I participate on this forum before I can make a statement like "Bartlett is a clueless bumpkin" or "Christianasen does not have a clue" without being called a mindless, partisan liar?

I made no assumptions about other posters; I simply responded. Can we now just begin to have mutually respectful discussions about issues on which we disagree?

Your posts are quickly flammable and I and others disagree. You have said these things on Kathy Taylor...

"If this megalomaniac has any chance at being elected it really is time to blow this town!
One of her volunteers knocked at my door this a.m.  I politely told her yeah, when hell freezes over."

"What (else) did she do wrong? Oh, please! How about her lies to accomplish the City Hall move? How about her refusal to attend CC meetings and make required presentations because they DARED question her? How about firing the new Parks Department head, within months of actively recruiting her, because she DARED question her (KT)?  KT thinks she's royalty, exempt from ethical standards, and she's nothing more than an empire builder!"

"NO - it's NOT ok to 'get things done' in a crooked way - even if some of those things may be beneficial.  (What about when they're not?)  She's shown she will do whatever is necessary to have things HER way and giving over power to someone like that is just nonsensical."

"I don't know KT personally, but loathe her as mayor.  I believe she deems herself not a public servant, but more an overlord (enabled by lots of $-acquired influence.) I hate that in government! My opinions are based on my own perceptions of facts and events that I KNOW to be true because I was paying attention." 

Do you not realize that some disagree with you? Do you not expect people who like her to disagree and say so?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Over how long period of time must I participate on this forum before I can make a statement like "Bartlett is a clueless bumpkin" or "Christianasen does not have a clue" without being called a mindless, partisan liar?

I made no assumptions about other posters; I simply responded. Can we now just begin to have mutually respectful discussions about issues on which we disagree?

Probably years.  But that's part of the fun of it, don't you think??  You probably should provide more direct evidence, anecdotes, stories, information - adds some interest to the argument and makes it more difficult to rebut.


What (else) did she do wrong? Oh, please! How about her lies to accomplish the City Hall move?  Example - "She said... <this, that and the other> .... working to have city hall moved, and they are false because....< some more stuff to back up why it is false >....."


How about her refusal to attend CC meetings and make required presentations because they DARED question her?    "She was a no show on < date, time, location >...!"


I have been blasting away at Inhofe ever since I started on here.  And HE has been incompetent since his first election won back in the 60's, and yet, we still have enough people here in this state to keep re-electing him for decades!!  One example was when he was first elected to the US House of Representatives, he couldn't get a real committee assignment until somewhere near his third term due to his obnoxious a$$hole way of dealing with the other Reps.... and that certainly was good for the state having no effective representation during those years!  Not!

[LocalGirl]

Your posts are quickly flammable and I and others disagree.
Do you not realize that some disagree with you? Do you not expect people who like her to disagree and say so?

Yes, I do - without calling me a mindless, partisan liar.

[RecycleMichael]

The City Council meetings you refer to were subcommittee meetings orchestrated to try and attack the Mayor. That set of councilors did the same thing to the previous Mayor. They are all gone from office now, many of them by the ballot box. Their behavior cost them their political lives. Frankly, I don't see any of them ever getting elected to anything ever again.

The City Council can't demand that the Mayor appear before them. She tried to in the beginning, but generally they were rude and not listening. I think any Mayor would have stopped attending.

[Conan71]

The City Council meetings you refer to were subcommittee meetings orchestrated to try and attack the Mayor. That set of councilors did the same thing to the previous Mayor. They are all gone from office now, many of them by the ballot box. Their behavior cost them their political lives. Frankly, I don't see any of them ever getting elected to anything ever again.

The City Council can't demand that the Mayor appear before them. She tried to in the beginning, but generally they were rude and not listening. I think any Mayor would have stopped attending.

Ah yes, memories of Medlock.  What a troll he turned out to be.

[AquaMan]

Don't lecture me about facts.  I've seen your glib, one-liner dismissals of facts you don't want to hear.  It appears to me you have a pretty selective definition of the word 'fact' anyway:

to wit:
A statement that happens to coincide with your mindset is a fact.  But information reported in local news broadcasts rises only to the level of 'inference.'  It's laughable.

Oh yeah, well whatever. You on the other hand have just been a fountain of facts as long as adjectives and pejoratives qualify. Wow, so cerebral.

Look, I've been skewered by the best around here and get up swinging. You hardly register.

[AquaMan]

Damn, pegged Aquaman

And you as well. She's really good huh?

[AquaMan]

Yes, I do - without calling me a mindless, partisan liar.

Who called her a mindless, partisan, liar? I missed that.

[custosnox]

LocalGirl's rants and raves aside, I just had a call from her campaign that I found interesting.  Most of what was said was the usual lip services, but what stood out to me was the claim that she kept police on the street even during recession.  Can someone please explain to me how she managed that when she left office right before the recession?

[RecycleMichael]

Who called her a mindless, partisan, liar? I missed that.

I did. I need to apologize for that.

[LocalGirl]

Look, I've been skewered by the best around here and get up swinging. You hardly register.

Oh yeah? Well...my dad can whip your dad! 

[AquaMan]

Oh yeah? Well...my dad can whip your dad! 

Very likely if your dad is still living. Mine is not. But he was a tough guy who everyone seemed to like.

I just re-read the last five pages and have to say I don't see any facts you've provided. Some allegations, lots of anger and plenty of feelings. Politics can do that.