Cities With Increasing Job Gains Since the Recession

[guido911]

Yes, it's probably a result of Koch money or they are somehow supporting the article, I know. Still, worth reading. Oklahoma City made the list.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/01/wsj-only-14-cities-have-more-jobs-now-than-before-the-recession/

I also know its Bush's fault that six of these states are in Texas.

[Teatownclown]

Yes, it's probably a result of Koch money or they are somehow supporting the article, I know. Still, worth reading. Oklahoma City made the list.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/01/wsj-only-14-cities-have-more-jobs-now-than-before-the-recession/

I also know its Bush's fault that six of these states are in Texas.

Has Texas subdivided already? Do you mean "cities?"

[guido911]

Here is an article setting out the net worth of California. From the article:

of $127.2 billion, according to an annual financial report issued by State Auditor Elaine Howle and the Bureau of State Audits.

The report, which covers the fiscal year ending June 30, 2012, says that the state's negative status -- all of its assets minus all of its liabilities -- increased that year, largely because it spent more than it received in revenue.

Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2013/03/state-auditor-california-net-worth-at-negative-127-billion.html#storylink=cpy

[guido911]

February job growth in Texas is the highest ever recorded?  I know, the site is a Koch front.

http://www.catholicismusa.com/texas-job-growth-february-was-highest-growth-in-the-united-states-ever/

[Conan71]

And a huge budget surplus.  Maybe they should secede instead of donating back to the feds like a bunch of suckas.

[guido911]

This is good. Oklahoma No. 10 in best states to make a living.

http://www.money-rates.com/research-center/best-states-to-make-a-living/2013-complete-list.htm

Yes, it's a Koch outfit.

[Gaspar]

This is good. Oklahoma No. 10 in best states to make a living.
http://www.money-rates.com/research-center/best-states-to-make-a-living/2013-complete-list.htm

Watch out, if you advertise that too loud, we will get an influx of liberals begging for stuff like river islands, and free bicycles for the homeless.
It's best to keep prosperity a secret.

[guido911]

^^^
I'm more interested to know if we give credit for this national ranking to our republican house/sen/governor. I know if the news is sh!tty about this state, the reason is that we are dominated by a bunch of toothless, knuckle-dragging, religious zealots.

[TheArtist]

   Ok, now before we pat ourselves on the back to the point of beating ourselves to death, some might have a little bit of a comment on how they define "best" and the criteria they used and did not use.  If a place is say, an easy place to start a company or get a job, but is also one in which your more likely to be murdered, the roads are falling apart, have more hungry and starving children, die at an earlier age, offer very little in "quality of life/things to do", etc.  Is it really one of the "best places to make a living"?  May be the best place to make a dollar, but not the best place to actually enjoy living.  Unless your main concern is making a buck and whether you live in or surrounded by abject misery doing it is not lol. Exaggeration there yes, but ya get my drift.  I think the criteria are definitely worthy of considering and to be proud of, but they are not the only criteria worthy of considering.

[Gaspar]

Unfortunately, I can only speak from experience, and based on that. . .

I find Oklahoma an excellent place to live, raise 2 (soon to be 3) children, watch my income increase, take advantage of new business opportunities, watch my home value increase (almost 10% over the last 4 years according to the appraisal I had done in February), enjoy a low cost of living, eat good food, participate in the arts, give to a grateful community, enjoy nature, and just live comfortably. 

I've lived in lots of cities, and that last one "live comfortably" is really hard to do in most of them. 

[Conan71]

Unfortunately, I can only speak from experience, and based on that. . .

I find Oklahoma an excellent place to live, raise 2 (soon to be 3) children, watch my income increase, take advantage of new business opportunities, watch my home value increase (almost 10% over the last 4 years according to the appraisal I had done in February), enjoy a low cost of living, eat good food, participate in the arts, give to a grateful community, enjoy nature, and just live comfortably.  

I've lived in lots of cities, and that last one "live comfortably" is really hard to do in most of them.  

Your experience here mirrors my own.  At one point in my life, I had convinced myself Tulsa was a great place to be from.  Six months in a megatropolis taught me Tulsa is a great place to be.  For my working life and raising my daughters it's fantastic.  I have other locales in mind for a working retirement some day, but it's no reflection on Tulsa, just where those opportunities happen to be.

And congratulations on soon to be 3, I had not heard that yet.

[Gaspar]

Your experience here mirrors my own.  At one point in my life, I had convinced myself Tulsa was a great place to be from.  Six months in a megatropolis taught me Tulsa is a great place to be.  For my working life and raising my daughters it's fantastic.  I have other locales in mind for a working retirement some day, but it's no reflection on Tulsa, just where those opportunities happen to be.

And congratulations on soon to be 3, I had not heard that yet.

Thanks.  I think we've finally figured out what causes that.

[guido911]

  Ok, now before we pat ourselves on the back to the point of beating ourselves to death, some might have a little bit of a comment on how they define "best" and the criteria they used and did not use.  If a place is say, an easy place to start a company or get a job, but is also one in which your more likely to be murdered, the roads are falling apart, have more hungry and starving children, die at an earlier age, offer very little in "quality of life/things to do", etc.  Is it really one of the "best places to make a living"?  May be the best place to make a dollar, but not the best place to actually enjoy living.  Unless your main concern is making a buck and whether you live in or surrounded by abject misery doing it is not lol. Exaggeration there yes, but ya get my drift.  I think the criteria are definitely worthy of considering and to be proud of, but they are not the only criteria worthy of considering.

I know I went from cities with job gains to Oklahoma being a great state to earn a living. But sheesh...

[RecycleMichael]

I find Oklahoma an excellent place to live, raise 2 (soon to be 3) children...  

Three changes everything. You have to change from a man to man defense to playing zone.

[TheArtist]

I suppose its perspective.  If your a young, or young at heart single, and or a person who wants to live in an urban setting not a suburban one, then Tulsa still seems to be lacking and I keep seeing people leave Tulsa to "greener pastures".  They don't worry about the work, they are often highly educated or talented and find work or are the type that will create their own.  They will even shack up with several roommates and live in a smaller apartment in order to "live" in a more lively, energetic, creative, urban environment.  And more and more young adults with families are pushing into urban/pedestrian friendly living environments as well (we haven't developed to the point where that is very possible yet).  It's been noted that Tulsa is a great place to raise a family and live a suburban lifestyle,,, but that isn't what everyone wants, and is not what everyone wants at every stage of their life.  We are beginning to see some small smatterings of "urbanity" starting in Tulsa, but we still have a way to go.  My old assistant of 6 years came back in town for the first time in about 4 years this Easter.   He moved to Austin.  I took him around town, into the Brady District, etc. to show off all the new things, but after hearing him talk about what all is going on there in Austin, (at one point he said "if you don't have 10 cranes in the air at one time... your not growing like Austin is lol) and kept telling me about the great opportunities he has had as an artist there etc. and I kinda started to feel a little down in the dumps.