Oklahoma Joes Fundraiser Kerfuffle

[Gaspar]

Trying to go deep into this using a phone isn't something I care to try, so I'll just respond in brief.  First, let me say I seem to be very emotionally charged on the subject, something I've only recently realized, which makes it difficult for me to not go down the crazy track here and there, so I'll beg your indulgence at those tines. 
On the subject at hand, I do not discount freewill, only that believing or disbelieving is not a choice, but rather an end result of the acceptance of evidence. Where the choice plays a part us if we choose to accept certain things as evidence, out if we choose to analyze the matter.  Even a lot of that, however, is determined in a lot of preexisting factors that effect the psyche. But, in the end, if the evidence you accept does not support a point, than you simply cannot believe it. So you can not choose your beliefs, but you can choose what you expose yourself to that can effect those beliefs.

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I think we can leave the discussion here.  It seems that we are indeed in agreement, it is only our definition of "Choice" that differs.  I consider the highlighted above as an acceptable definition of choice, even though you require something more rigid.  Either way, I understand your point now and respect it though we disagree on what constitutes choice.

[custosnox]

I think we can leave the discussion here.  It seems that we are indeed in agreement, it is only our definition of "Choice" that differs.  I consider the highlighted above as an acceptable definition of choice, even though you require something more rigid.  Either way, I understand your point now and respect it though we disagree on what constitutes choice.

I can live with that

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[guido911]

Here's a similar event in Houston re: the NRA.  http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/01/houston-schools-cancel-nra-safety-program-after-discovering-nra-connection/

[BKDotCom]

Here's a similar event in Houston re: the NRA.  http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/01/houston-schools-cancel-nra-safety-program-after-discovering-nra-connection/

Don't want those crazies teaching gun safety

[heironymouspasparagus]

So,....the message seems to be that the safest course of action is to make sure no cops carry guns....