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Mayor 2013: Negative ad campaigns

Started by sgrizzle, June 03, 2013, 10:17:04 PM

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Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on October 16, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
All anyone needs to do in this state to defeat Kathy is bring up her fiscal history, or her devotion to Obama. It seems however that Dewey has no interest in doing that. His campaign is positive to a fault.


They've run a string of ads calling her "The Obama Candidate", mentions her giving money to his campaign as well as Emily's List which is a pro-choice group which raises money for pro-choice Democrat women.  One of the ads features Jim Bridenstine.

Bartlet (sic) has gone full nasty as well.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on October 17, 2013, 10:11:55 AM
They've run a string of ads calling her "The Obama Candidate", mentions her giving money to his campaign as well as Emily's List which is a pro-choice group which raises money for pro-choice Democrat women.  One of the ads features Jim Bridenstine.

Bartlet (sic) has gone full nasty as well.

I'm waiting for Taylor to run an ad showing an on-fire cellphone in Dooey's pocket.   :o

Cats Cats Cats

Well this should be fun.  Taylor is also soliciting funds from outside of the city.  All the way in Jenks!  hehehe

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on October 17, 2013, 10:11:55 AM
They've run a string of ads calling her "The Obama Candidate", mentions her giving money to his campaign as well as Emily's List which is a pro-choice group which raises money for pro-choice Democrat women.  One of the ads features Jim Bridenstine.

Bartlet (sic) has gone full nasty as well.

I'm guessing the only place to hear these ads is on KRMG?

Conan71

There's an interesting dichotomy in this election.

During Bartlet's (sic) term, we've seen a lot of growth and a lot of projects completed which is complimentary to his term in office.  Interesting part is though, is many of those projects came to fruition due to Taylor's vision.  Certainly she did some controversial things like the Borg Cube purchase, and the creation of the ball park assessment district.  But the ballpark and the stadium trust were most certainly a catalyst in ushering rapid renovation of the Matthew Brady District.

Bartlet (sic) gets credit for the economic recovery in terms of claimed job growth, Taylor gets blame for job loss after the collapse of SEMron and job loss as the recession was ramping up.

Perception is everything in terms of elections.  I like Kathy's visionary approach to the office. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on October 17, 2013, 10:37:43 AM
I'm guessing the only place to hear these ads is on KRMG?

Mostly.  They also have a few TV ads.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

carltonplace

Quote from: Conan71 on October 17, 2013, 11:05:02 AM
There's an interesting dichotomy in this election.

During Bartlet's (sic) term, we've seen a lot of growth and a lot of projects completed which is complimentary to his term in office.  Interesting part is though, is many of those projects came to fruition due to Taylor's vision.  Certainly she did some controversial things like the Borg Cube purchase, and the creation of the ball park assessment district.  But the ballpark and the stadium trust were most certainly a catalyst in ushering rapid renovation of the Matthew Brady District.

Bartlet (sic) gets credit for the economic recovery in terms of claimed job growth, Taylor gets blame for job loss after the collapse of SEMron and job loss as the recession was ramping up.

Perception is everything in terms of elections.  I like Kathy's visionary approach to the office.  

I dont fully disagree with Gaspar's assessment or even his assertion about Tulsa needing an "ego-less" mayor. But I do have a problem with a "visionless" mayor and that is what we have with Dewey. He is just turning the lights on, he isn't charged - I don't feel like he goes into the office excited to move Tulsa forward.

I hope Kathy turns down the nasty rhetoric, it doesn't represent her well.

Conan71

Quote from: carltonplace on October 17, 2013, 04:02:00 PM

I hope Kathy turns down the nasty rhetoric, it doesn't represent her well.


Probably a good idea since FOTD/AOX,TTownAssClown said Tulsa men were afraid of strong and powerful wemmen.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: carltonplace on October 17, 2013, 04:02:00 PM
I dont fully disagree with Gaspar's assessment or even his assertion about Tulsa needing an "ego-less" mayor. But I do have a problem with a "visionless" mayor and that is what we have with Dewey. He is just turning the lights on, he isn't charged - I don't feel like he goes into the office excited to move Tulsa forward.

I hope Kathy turns down the nasty rhetoric, it doesn't represent her well.

I agree.  His campaign was charged, but after being elected, it seemed like all he wanted to do is be a head down CEO.  That was certainly an important dimension of the job and arguably more important than the leaders we've had that are willing to jump in front of any camera they see, but I would like to see a mayor that can do both.  PR is important.

When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants. . .
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on October 17, 2013, 04:18:17 PM
I agree.  His campaign was charged, but after being elected, it seemed like all he wanted to do is be a head down CEO.  That was certainly an important dimension of the job and arguably more important than the leaders we've had that are willing to jump in front of any camera they see, but I would like to see a mayor that can do both.  PR is important.

When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants. . .


Bartlet (sic) takes a deft approach to leadership, Taylor is far more hands-on.  She's a great delegator but she stays on top of the issues.  Working with her during her administration, I learned that when she said something would happen, she would make sure it did.  If it did not get done, she would follow up immediately.

I don't know that I've even met that many CEO's who are so engaged in the day-to-day operation of their business as she was as mayor.  Keep in mind, I was no fan of hers for the first couple of years of her administration.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Vashta Nerada

Quote from: Conan71 on October 17, 2013, 11:05:02 AM
There's an interesting dichotomy in this election.
Interesting part is though, is many of those projects came to fruition due to Taylor's vision. 

Dont you mean Susan Savage?

Hoss

Quote from: Vashta Nerada on October 17, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
Dont you mean Susan Savage?

Savage started the push initially.  But Vision 2025 really belongs to Bill LaFortune.  I was a little miffed at the city for not really recognizing his effort (as an Oklahoma Republican also) in getting V2025 passed.  Taylor was just sitting in the chair when the flagship of the project (the arena) was completed.

I know many people who said it would fade out after the first year.  Here we are at five years now and it's better than ever.

Cats Cats Cats

#42
My friend got a flier in the mail yesterday.  It was the one about how Dewey was playing the Harmonica while crime was up.  LOL, I mean seriously.


AquaMan

Apparently it won't be enough for her to defeat him. She wants to humiliate him.

Maybe she's privy to some shenanigans he is doing or sees polls that scare her. Whatever, it looks like an attempt to spend campaign dollars.
onward...through the fog

Cats Cats Cats

I don't know why they just didn't say that crime is up.  The harmonica quip makes me wonder if this is a big joke or not.