Anyone Know Where Davenport Street Is?

[Conan71]

I had lunch at Laffa today with one of the original stakeholders in the Brady District.  During lunch he mentioned where Davenport Street once was laid out in Tulsa.  It had never dawned on me prior to today that there's a missing street in the alphabet north of the tracks.  It skips from Cameron to Easton.  If you drive north on Cheyenne, Boulder, or Main from Cameron to Easton, mid block turn and look either direction and you will notice roughly a 50 foot alleyway in between buildings.  The street was taken over by a rail spur at one point for all the industry in the district.  The spur was later removed.  Was anyone else aware of this before?

He also mentioned that the Brady District and the CBD, in his opinion, is about 1500 to 2000 residential units shy of a "critical mass".  I'd be looking for quite a few more announcements on residential property within the IDL in the next 2-3 years.

[saintnicster]

I had lunch at Laffa today with one of the original stakeholders in the Brady District.  During lunch he mentioned where Davenport Street once was laid out in Tulsa.  It had never dawned on me prior to today that there's a missing street in the alphabet north of the tracks.  It skips from Cameron to Easton.  If you drive north on Cheyenne, Boulder, or Main from Cameron to Easton, mid block turn and look either direction and you will notice roughly a 50 foot alleyway in between buildings.  The street was taken over by a rail spur at one point for all the industry in the district.  The spur was later removed.  Was anyone else aware of this before?

He also mentioned that the Brady District and the CBD, in his opinion, is about 1500 to 2000 residential units shy of a "critical mass".  I'd be looking for quite a few more announcements on residential property within the IDL in the next 2-3 years.

Apparently there was something recent that popped up related to who owned the land, and that summery has some of the history
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ok-court-of-civil-appeals/1611785.html 

[rdj]

Apparently there was something recent that popped up related to who owned the land, and that summery has some of the history
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ok-court-of-civil-appeals/1611785.html 

The land in this lawsuit is where Griffin Media Center is now located.

It actually wouldn't be a bad idea to reopen "Davenport" as a pedestrian only street from Boulder to Cheyenne.  During the Center of the Universe Festival it would have been great.  It would also connect the buildings in the NW portion of Brady back to the district better.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

I had lunch at Laffa today with one of the original stakeholders in the Brady District.  During lunch he mentioned where Davenport Street once was laid out in Tulsa.  It had never dawned on me prior to today that there's a missing street in the alphabet north of the tracks.  It skips from Cameron to Easton.  If you drive north on Cheyenne, Boulder, or Main from Cameron to Easton, mid block turn and look either direction and you will notice roughly a 50 foot alleyway in between buildings.  The street was taken over by a rail spur at one point for all the industry in the district.  The spur was later removed.  Was anyone else aware of this before?

He also mentioned that the Brady District and the CBD, in his opinion, is about 1500 to 2000 residential units shy of a "critical mass".  I'd be looking for quite a few more announcements on residential property within the IDL in the next 2-3 years.

I remember the rail spur, the bridge across Denver is still there. (according to Google Earth) IIRC, that spur was still in use in the early 80's and maybe into the late 80's. I did not know it was a street at one time. Wasn't there also a spur that ran down Archer at one time that started around Guthrie and Archer? There is a gap between the buildings that are between Guthrie and Lawton, and the building on the SE corner of Guthrie and Archer has an odd angle to it that I think was because of the curve in the line to turn and go east on Archer.

[zenmechanic]

I have an older Atlas of Tulsa copy that would detail exactly where this was up until October of 1962.  I can take a few pictures when I get home tonight if anyone would be interested.

[RecycleMichael]

I have an older Atlas of Tulsa copy that would detail exactly where this was up until October of 1962.  I can take a few pictures when I get home tonight if anyone would be interested.

Well...hell yes we want to see any pictures. We love old Tulsa pictures.

You are new to the forum. As chair of the welcoming committee, let me officially say we like you already.

[Townsend]

Well...hell yes we want to see any pictures. We love old Tulsa pictures.

You are new to the forum. As chair of the welcoming committee, let me officially say we like you already.

This ugly woman is right.  We do enjoy old Tulsa pics.

[zenmechanic]

Well...hell yes we want to see any pictures. We love old Tulsa pictures.

You are new to the forum. As chair of the welcoming committee, let me officially say we like you already.

I've lurked on this board a long long time, just never thought to make an account until today. 

Here's a sample shot of what is in my copy of the Atlas of Tulsa.  I'll upload a few more on davenport street tonight.

[Hoss]

I've lurked on this board a long long time, just never thought to make an account until today. 

Here's a sample shot of what is in my copy of the Atlas of Tulsa.  I'll upload a few more on davenport street tonight.

that is awesome.  Love maps.  Love to see pre-interstate maps of Tulsa.  I'm especially curious to know how the Admiral corridor from Sheridan to Mingo looked before 244 was built.

[zenmechanic]

that is awesome.  Love maps.  Love to see pre-interstate maps of Tulsa.  I'm especially curious to know how the Admiral corridor from Sheridan to Mingo looked before 244 was built.

I'll snap a few pictures of that as well.

[ElwoodBen]

Hello all. I'm new to this forum also. I ( also dad, mom , brother and sisters) formerly lived in this very area until about 1966. Spent all my elementary school years here until mom got transfered with her job and all moved to Bartlesville. My memories seem to be very selective now but somehow can remember these times well. A '57 buick was the family car but was seldom used except to pick up mom at her office downtown in what was known as the NBT building at the time. I guess that left me and my siblings as "latch key" kids. We had to do a lot of walking. Even from a day care on north Denver about 3 blocks north of Edison where all the walking started in my early days. The walk to Osage Elementary located where the Tisdale expressway is now. Then from there to home  on about the 200 block north Elwood. I think I was in the last 6th grade class they had when all the demo was going on in the area to make way for the IDL. School included.

We were a family of hikers. Exercise I guess. I remember a t least a couple of trips along that railroad going west almost  to Sand Springs and walking back before the sun set on us. Somebody in our family had one of those pedometers that clicked every time you took a step. I can't remember those readings on it though. If you go east on the RR , there was a little bridge that went over Denver av. where a safeway grocery was located. Never seen a Davenport av though. AS far as we knew, the RR kept going east somewhere out of our range. The siblings and I used to sneak out of our yard and walked all over the area and played. Frisco av to our west had a bridge over said tracks. That was a fun alternative route to school complete with hobo sightings under the bridge. The Frisco bridge even had side walks.Thinking now it had staircase going below (easy access for the hobos? ) Mom would fix them a sandwich if they came a'knocking on the door ( I always thought they were some sort of RR workers as it looked like to me they dressed the part,  cap and stripped overalls). Oh, and Owen Park... another story for another time, .

Oh yeah ,Archer did have a RR down the middle of it and those odd shaped buildings to the south of us had all kinds of railroad spurs all over the place. Elwood av went over the tracks south to where the white civic center is now located. Now remembering being somewhat disappointed when those tickets that were sitting on top of the T.V. for the longest time were for the Roy Clarke show instead of the Dave Clark Five like I always thought . Roy Clarke  was very vesitile guitar player any way! Thought he was some sort of a guitar genious in those days after that. My first music concert.wow.

Anyone else live in that era-area, go to that school? Tiny grocer/ house right across the street ?
Now under the city jail. Did I see a Katy pedestrian trail somewhere on this sight? Anyone walk it?

[RecycleMichael]

Welcome.

Keep posting.

[TheArtist]

Welcome.

Keep posting.

Indeed, and nice to have someone around from that era who remembers things lol.  I usually get answers like "I think... well wait,,,, no, it was over there,.... hmmm actually, maybe it was there..... Hey Marge! Where was such and such!....... hmmm, you know I don't recall exactly.... What was it you wanted to know again?"

[ElwoodBen]

Yes Zen, I would like to see those maps also. Especially the areas just to the north and the area just to the west of the downtown grid pre-IDL. As a kid in the 60's, mom used to bring home those Tulsa maps that the bank put out in those days. I remember those dotted red lines on them that indicated where the new highways were gonna go. The latest one in those days showed a section of the BA express completed between 12th st and memorial on the east. BA was off the map too far to the east to be included. Wished now I could have saved them after being collected all those years.
Seems like I was trying to re-draw them onto brown paper grocery bags that I cut out the bottoms to make a flat square piece to draw upon. I think some of the drawings of the skyline made it to show-and-tell at school . I think there was a brief history of Tulsa going on in the 6 grade level. Even the parts about the riots, and something about a tree south of downtown.A map at school indicated the newly annexed areas that made the city look twice as large as beforehand.
I'm thinking now that Brady av continued west along side Archer one block south. Today there is a remnant of another school, ( I believed it was Irving) that looked sorta like Osage elementary did back in the day. We had to walk to church on Sundays also. Strange little hood over there that looks like a small town we walked though to Rosedale av near 1st st. Helped construct it for some odd reason. It was an Indian church, I guess they got members to help with construction. I remember cinder (?) concrete blocks were involved. Getting too far away from Davenport now but that same railway followed along but some how it was above that hood a few feet in elevation. Now curiuos about the map.
Wonder if TPS would have photos of their old schools?

[saintnicster]

that is awesome.  Love maps.  Love to see pre-interstate maps of Tulsa.  I'm especially curious to know how the Admiral corridor from Sheridan to Mingo looked before 244 was built.

Oh man, that just reminded me of the Sanborn Fire Insurance maps.   You can access them online if you have a City Library Card.  Lots of neat shots of what the city looked like, up to around 1962.