Anyone Know Where Davenport Street Is?

[zenmechanic]

Better late than never, right?

http://imgur.com/a/uRPiy

That's a gallery of 4 pictures.  The title page to the book, the grid of the city, the page listed for Davenport St, and a closeup of the street in question.

Any others?

[ElwoodBen]

Wow! Just wow. Thank you very much for those images from your photo site on Imgur. Especially #4, shows the old stomping grounds that I grew up in. Armed with expanded zoom controls and a fine toothed magnifying glass, one can see some of the board of education -Osage school lots at the top of the map ( the school property actually extended another half block north to Golden st. off map). Also nearby, where all those lines become very busy near Edison st.and Osage drive, are boundry lines indicating where the Osage, Creek, and Cherokee nations came together right there just one block south of the school.Present day southeast corner of Osage county.There might be a comemorative marker
in nearby Owen park of some sort. Never paid much attention to those type of things in those days.

To be continued..

[ElwoodBen]

http://imgur.com/a/uRPiy

Please excuse my ignorance on posting, as I'm still new at this, but I can learn as I go. Adding hyperlinks and photos will be my next thing to learn (right after punching the correct keys and spelling!). Why didn't they teach me this in that school??

In referance to to the same map page in last post, you can also see block 6 that has the ongoing legal dispute refered to in an earlier post (at the far right side of the page). From what I gathered from that article, it was over a 20' wide  strip of land along the north side of Davenport.

I formerly lived on block 33 (not cell block 33)  at the very bottom of the map. It was all nice tree-lined, sidewalks to the west of Denver and nicely kept houses and yards with very few not so nice houses. To the east of Denver it was more industrial like and no trees as I recall.  I'm just now remembering a walking field trip from the Osage school to the Brady theatre with a class long ago. Nothing in particular was showing there, just exploring the insides and such as I recall.  Looking at the map now, everything was so rediculislly close to each other, short distances everywhere around there,even the get-away route out of town to grammas house was just a couple or 3 blocks southwest to the 11th street bridge across the river and past the refineries and suddenly out of the big city, amazing. Sometimes an alternate route down Riverside drive to where it ended around 56th south and zig-zaged our way out of town that way.
Distances shrink down to almost nothing I'm now thinking.

Now if I can humbly request some more pages out of the good book: page 42 and whatever the page that is south of there and page 20, if I'm reading the map correctly, refering to the little circled numbers on page 21 that is shown. I'm looking for that missing piece of the puzzle possibly linking Brady to a street named "heavy traffic Way" or similar.
I believe someone requested earlier on this post about a section of E Admiral PL east of Sheridan also. Thanks in advance.

[zenmechanic]

http://imgur.com/a/1YqAr#0

Here's an album with pages 20, 40, and 296.  Enjoy!

[ElwoodBen]

These plat maps raises more questions from me which is moot anyway since all this is gone just like Davenport Av vanished beforehand decades before. Example :block 33 (at least) and other blocks in that immediate area show only 6 lots per block when I know there were more than 3 houses facing the street (on my side of the street,Elwood, had a 4plex apartments on each corner and 3 houses in between) and a rumored "witch shack'' in the alley. . Seems incredable now that they could fit that many houses on those small blocks.Those blocks were further subdivided into yet smaller lots than what is shown. (because those houses were already decades old when map was made if you know what I mean).

I guess my new hobby is to research this area (with the help from my new friends at this forum, Sanborn fire maps , Berle Ford collections,THS, Tulsa Library,etc, etc. Oh, by the way , does the Tulsa library issue cards to out-of- towners?
Sounds like a dicey thing to do on their part.

I'm getting these funny ideas about creating a 3D table-top model highlighting the Archer-Brady-Bluedome district Just like they did in the movie "Beelejuice". I wonder if that would fly. If only in my own private "museum of self indulgence" .

[Hoss]

These plat maps raises more questions from me which is moot anyway since all this is gone just like Davenport Av vanished beforehand decades before. Example :block 33 (at least) and other blocks in that immediate area show only 6 lots per block when I know there were more than 3 houses facing the street (on my side of the street,Elwood, had a 4plex apartments on each corner and 3 houses in between) and a rumored "witch shack'' in the alley. . Seems incredable now that they could fit that many houses on those small blocks.Those blocks were further subdivided into yet smaller lots than what is shown. (because those houses were already decades old when map was made if you know what I mean).

I guess my new hobby is to research this area (with the help from my new friends at this forum, Sanborn fire maps , Berle Ford collections,THS, Tulsa Library,etc, etc. Oh, by the way , does the Tulsa library issue cards to out-of- towners?
Sounds like a dicey thing to do on their part.

I'm getting these funny ideas about creating a 3D table-top model highlighting the Archer-Brady-Bluedome district Just like they did in the movie "Beelejuice". I wonder if that would fly. If only in my own private "museum of self indulgence" .

As long as Michael Keaton doesn't crash through your door and scream "Nice Fn model!".  LOL.

[zenmechanic]

These plat maps raises more questions from me which is moot anyway since all this is gone just like Davenport Av vanished beforehand decades before. Example :block 33 (at least) and other blocks in that immediate area show only 6 lots per block when I know there were more than 3 houses facing the street (on my side of the street,Elwood, had a 4plex apartments on each corner and 3 houses in between) and a rumored "witch shack'' in the alley. .

Just FYI on this book:  The book has pages up to October of 1962, but most pages are dated with random years.  I've seen pages from 1937, 1954, and 1961.  For example, pg 296 is copyrighted 1962. 

I inherited this book from my grandfather who was in the real estate business and I've carried it around for the last 15 years or so.  I've often debated on donating it to the Tulsa Historical Society, but every once in a while it comes in handy to look something up.

[saintnicster]

Lunch at The Tavern reminded me that there is this aerial map/drawing of Tulsa from 1918.  Great to zoom in on and view all the details.

http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/aero-view-of-tulsa-oklahoma-1918/

[rdj]

Lunch at The Tavern reminded me that there is this aerial map/drawing of Tulsa from 1918.  Great to zoom in on and view all the details.

http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/aero-view-of-tulsa-oklahoma-1918/

This print hangs on the wall behind my desk.  I've never seen the site you posted.  Cool to zoom in on the map.  I could read it better than looking really close to the big print I have!

[ElwoodBen]

Great  find. I was up all night looking for something even remote to this. Not even a quarter way through the Ford collection yet .Discovered a bunch of other interesting things tho. It'l take months or years to try to find all the photos and articles that I hope to find. This digital  version of someones drawing (Michealangelo?) will probably be the best depiction I will ever hope to find. The library site wouldn't let me see the Sanborn stuff without a card ($50) for us out town area users. I think I'm really hoping to find pics of the old Osage school as ultimate goal.
Zoom control capabilities is just great! Saw some things I completly forgot about. The school is on there! Didn't know this area was so old to exist into the 60's. In a way, this is way better than a photograph, no trees to block some views.
You will also notice other street name changes on there. Look for a ball field on there that is close to where present day field is! This is way better than a "wheres Waldo" game can ever be.
My little sis is gonna have a deja vu freak when I show her this.

Oh yeah, I did find some more missing puzzle pieces at Tulsatvmemories.com especially at group blogs 316 and 281 that discribes some of the shennaniniguns that was going on in those 60's days around there. Good stuff. Old blogs tho, wished I could have participated in those.   

[custosnox]

Just FYI on this book:  The book has pages up to October of 1962, but most pages are dated with random years.  I've seen pages from 1937, 1954, and 1961.  For example, pg 296 is copyrighted 1962. 

I inherited this book from my grandfather who was in the real estate business and I've carried it around for the last 15 years or so.  I've often debated on donating it to the Tulsa Historical Society, but every once in a while it comes in handy to look something up.

Have you ever considered getting professional digital copies made of the pages?  If you do that then those could be available for any research, and you and still donate the book.

[zenmechanic]

Have you ever considered getting professional digital copies made of the pages?  If you do that then those could be available for any research, and you and still donate the book.

I could do that, but the total page count in that book is 1,423.  I could scan them in myself, but it would be one hell of a project.

[custosnox]

I could do that, but the total page count in that book is 1,423.  I could scan them in myself, but it would be one hell of a project.

Wow, that is one heck of a book.  I would love to get ahold of that file if you ever scan it, or have it scanned.

[AquaMan]

Lunch at The Tavern reminded me that there is this aerial map/drawing of Tulsa from 1918.  Great to zoom in on and view all the details.

http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/aero-view-of-tulsa-oklahoma-1918/

I love that print. Especially when you zoom in and realize its a drawing and not a pic. A couple of errors I noticed right off. The railroad is pictured as east of Cincinnati at 18th to 21st, when in fact it is west. And of course, no trees on Berryhill and Lookout mtn. Counldn't find Lee school which was built in 1918 or my house nearby which was built around that time.

[ElwoodBen]

I forgot about Google earth's walk-around feature. One can walk all over the place excecpt most alley ways. You can turn and look down them tho. These are high quality pics from a year ago this month. The googlemobil picked a be-utiful day to record this. I just got back from a walk around the near west side. Amazing some things were still there being lived in. The front yards with their stone walls to hold the soil in, stone foundations and boarded up old buildings from 1918 and beyond. Also took a stroll up north Denver to about Haskel Pl. Yep, the old nursury school buildings were still there. A couple of mansions still standing also. I'll eventually will get the scoop on them. I did get to go up an alley between Tisdale and Denver near Golden I believe, Had a deja Vu experience looking at an somehow familiar house/ yard back in there. Funny how I can get excited over touring older areas when most would prefer touring the newer stuff. Even saw some people hang out at around Archer/Frisco?

Stopped and looked up at the street signs occasionally to keep from becoming lost. Good stuff.




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