New Hilton Garden Inn - Downtown (2nd & Cheyenne)

[BKDotCom]

The asking price for retail space in OnePlace is high.  Advertised rate is $25/sq ft.  Clearly aiming for national high end / luxury brands... not dwelling spaces and a pizza joint.

I love street level retail, but it isn't exactly taking off yet.  Hope that trends the other way.

Ironic that the first retailer is an overpriced pizza place.

[PonderInc]

OK, so I'm confused about the "two smaller buildings" they want to tear down.  The only "small" buildings I can think of are the Oil and Gas Journal Building (211 S Cheyenne) and the Wright Building (125 W. 3rd) (which is the Ti Amos building).  These are basically the coolest/most interesting buildings on the block.  So, of course, they should come down.  (Go Tulsa!)

Really?

The Wright Building/Ti Amos building is designated a "contributing resource" to the Oil Capital Historic District. It would probably be individually listed if it weren't for the terrible replacement windows and some of the missing exterior detail, but it qualifies for historic tax credits because it falls within and contributes to the district.  The Oil and Gas Journal Building is a historic building that has been altered, so it doesn't meet standards for inclusion in the historic district, but it's a great building. (Aside from the windows, I think it's more attractive now than originally!)  And I believe there are still some tax credits available just b/c it's over 50 years old, even if it doesn't qualify as part of the historic district.   

I can't figure out how to get the photos to appear here, but here are the links to the Beryl Ford Collection:

Oil and Gas Journal Building:
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15020coll1/id/11979/rec/3

Wright Building:
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15020coll1/id/22835/rec/1

[carltonplace]

Do you think their intention is really to tear down the Wright Building Annex(Ti Amos)? Why in the world would they do that?

[PonderInc]

I'm just going with the quote about "two smaller buildings..."  What other "small" buildings are nearby?

[PonderInc]

...oh, and also because this is Tulsa. 

So nothing's protected except the short-term financial goals of whatever "visionary" currently owns a particular historic property.

Our architectural history and the future of our built environment rest solely on the arbitrary decisions of an assortment of random individual property owners.  (No zoning and no HP guidelines, please, just our individual, god-given property rights.) (Who knew that god was into property rights?)

But don't worry, if the past 40 years are any indication, these individual property owners will always wisely (and with tremendous foresight) determine the "highest and best use" for these "functionally obsolete" buildings. 

</cynicism> </bitterness>

[sgrizzle]

Here is the definitive answer from the horse's mouth:

There are two buildings on the site; one of the two story buildings will be renovated for leased retail and the hotel's public spaces; the other building will be demolished to make way for the 134-key guestroom tower.

[sgrizzle]

The two affected buildings:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2nd+%26+Cheyenne+tulsa&hl=en&ll=36.153219,-95.993644&spn=0.000662,0.000603&sll=36.153535,-95.993939&layer=c&cbp=13,62.58,,0,-3.59&cbll=36.153219,-95.993772&hnear=S+Cheyenne+Ave+%26+W+2nd+St,+Tulsa,+Oklahoma+74103&t=h&z=21&panoid=xs1_rzc4vXVX_B2IU3SFTg

[BKDotCom]

This thread escalated quickly.
Reading comprehension and deep breaths for the win.

[Weatherdemon]

Is the Wright building the one directly next to the Oil and Gas Journal building?

That is the one that's a gonner.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=36.153219,-95.993772&spn=0.000002,0.000817&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.153133,-95.993726&panoid=TECXg-mKOo_Smhqdma6AEA&cbp=12,65.32,,0,6.22

[Hoss]

Is the Wright building the one directly next to the Oil and Gas Journal building?

That is the one that's a gonner.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=36.153219,-95.993772&spn=0.000002,0.000817&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.153133,-95.993726&panoid=TECXg-mKOo_Smhqdma6AEA&cbp=12,65.32,,0,6.22

The one you have in the view from Google Streets is the Oil & Gas Journal building.

[cannon_fodder]

I don't think ti amo is going anywhere.

[rdj]

Clear up a couple things:

The building where Ti Amo's, also known as Wright Building Annex, is located (SW corner of the block) is owned by TEDC.  The Forge, the business incubator run by TYPROS is the tenant on the upper floors.  It is not going anywhere.

The building to the east of Ti Amo's (facing South) between Cheyenne & Boulder on 3rd), also known as the Wright Building, and home to The Sushi Place is owned by a local attorney.  It also is not going anywhere.

PHD Hospitality LLC owns the NW quarter of the block which includes two buildings.

The other half of the block is the federal courthouse building.

[BKDotCom]

[Weatherdemon]

The one you have in the view from Google Streets is the Oil & Gas Journal building.

What is the corner one seen in the drawings with 2nd story windows then?
According to the post with the red overlay, this is an art deco building that will be torn down.

[BKDotCom]

What is the corner one seen in the drawings with 2nd story windows then?
According to the post with the red overlay, this is an art deco building that will be torn down.

On the corner = Oil & Gas Journal Building
Next-door (south) = "attached unnamed building with art-deco facade"

Edit:  Attempt #2: