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[TulsaRufnex]

Pro soccer is still a hard sell here.  Small groups of intensely loyal fans.  Another generation of kids and soccer moms likely to be needed before big expectations are realized there.

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Wrong.  TULSA'S SOCCER DADS would beg to differ.

The Roughnecks generation of soccer kids are now in our 30's, 40's, and many of us are now in our 50's.

We had a crowd of nearly 5,800 for a Tuesday night game last summer.

We had a crowd of 3,761 to watch our first year hometown amateur team play the Liverpool Warriors of Dallas (Plano) on the same Saturday night in June when both the Drillers and Shock were simultaneously playing home games at their superior taxpayer funded facilities at OneOk Park and the BOk Center.

THE TIME IS NOW.  The only question beyond that is whether we'll be a USL Pro affiliate of Sporting KC or take the field as an independent NASL club.
This could happen as soon as 2015, but definitely within the next 2-4 years.



http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/08/18/nbc-telecast-of-swansea-city-manchester-united-posts-highest-overnight-rating-in-u-s-history-for-premier-league-opener/198140/

  NBC Sports Group's three live opening-day Premier League telecasts averaged a .5 overnight rating – up 67% from last season's opening Saturday three-game average (.3 average for one match on ESPN and two on Fox Soccer)
Washington, D.C. topped all U.S. markets for local ratings of NBC's Swansea City-Manchester United telecast.
Following is the top ten:

Washington, D.C. (2.2)
Tulsa (1.9)
Austin (1.8 )
Seattle (1.4)
Buffalo (1.4)
Los Angeles (1.2)
Philadelphia (1.0)
Cincinnati (1.0)
Orlando (1.0)
Hartford/New Haven (0.9)

[Rookie Okie]

Better to go NASL independent, if at all possible.

[Laramie]

Portland Trailblazers are for real.  The Thunder had a great game statistically against the Blazers and these guys proved that they can counter against some good teams.  They have beaten Chicago, Golden State, L.A. Lakers, Indiana and OKC in the past two weeks.

Aldridge has to be one of the top center in the NBA this year.

It will be interesting to see how they do against Indiana and OKC on the road.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10081713&startTime=00:00

Better to go NASL independent, if at all possible.

Let's hope that Tulsa can get back into the NASL  All signs point toward 2015 or 2016.  There's a possibility that San Antonio could be moving on to the MLS.

[Laramie]

Thunder's Westbrook hasn't skipped a beat.

ESPN NBA:  http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10149197&ex_cid=espnapi_public

[heironymouspasparagus]

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Wrong.  TULSA'S SOCCER DADS would beg to differ.

The Roughnecks generation of soccer kids are now in our 30's, 40's, and many of us are now in our 50's.

We had a crowd of nearly 5,800 for a Tuesday night game last summer.

We had a crowd of 3,761 to watch our first year hometown amateur team play the Liverpool Warriors of Dallas (Plano) on the same Saturday night in June when both the Drillers and Shock were simultaneously playing home games at their superior taxpayer funded facilities at OneOk Park and the BOk Center.

THE TIME IS NOW.  The only question beyond that is whether we'll be a USL Pro affiliate of Sporting KC or take the field as an independent NASL club.
This could happen as soon as 2015, but definitely within the next 2-4 years.

Those are decent numbers for soccer.  But what does the NBA do right down the road a little bit?

Or OU games...OSU...Texas...Tennessee....

And NFL...well, even Oakland averages 50,000.

Professional curling gets 280,000 per season in Edmonton (record year - 2005), while Calgary got 250,000 in 2009.

Just not quite there yet to be "pro"....or considered real mainstream.

[TulsaRufnex]

Those are decent numbers for soccer.  But what does the NBA do right down the road a little bit?

Or OU games...OSU...Texas...Tennessee....

And NFL...well, even Oakland averages 50,000.

Professional curling gets 280,000 per season in Edmonton (record year - 2005), while Calgary got 250,000 in 2009.

Just not quite there yet to be "pro"....or considered real mainstream.

Why on earth would you try to compare the Tulsa Athletics to the Thunder, Sooners and Cowboys?  

My attendance numbers are for our first year NPSL amateur club playing their home games at 15th & Yale.
Comparing an amateur soccer team's attendance to the NBA or college football is wholly inappropriate and more than a little silly.

Try comparing apples to apples, please...

NBA and NHL Get the Boot: MLS Is the 3rd Most Attended Sports League in America
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1290390-nba-and-nhl-get-the-boot-mls-is-the-3rd-most-attended-sports-league-in-america'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_attendances_of_professional_sports_teams_in_the_United_States_and_Canada

The first year Tulsa Athletics average attendance last summer:  3,066 fans per game (putting us either at the top or just short of Chattanooga's numbers in a 61-team league).
The 2013 Tulsa Drillers: 5,704 per game at their brand new downtown ballpark.
The Tulsa Shock:  averaged between 4,800 and 5,200 per game over the past few years at the state of the art BOk Center.
The Tulsa Oilers:  4,166 per game at the BOk Center.
The Tulsa 66ers:  an average of around 2100? per game at the Spirit Bank Events Center, built at a cost of $50 million.

A few hours after watching coverage of Sporting KC winning MLS Cup at their sold out soccer specific stadium, I stood at 7th & Frankfort wondering what it would have been like to have had that final in downtown Tulsa and why we didn't seize the opportunity back when we had several real honest-to-goodness chances to get into MLS.  http://tulsanow.org/index.php/2005/12/in-the-mood-to-help-fund-a-downtown-soccer-stadium/

The first year Oklahoma City FC soccer club that plays in a league similar to Tulsa's drew 1,214 fans per game (yes sports fans, that's less than half the number of fans we drew last summer)

Yet, OKC is getting this in 2014... http://www.energyfc.com/en/home.html#0
...and this in 2015... http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=3&newsid=5055

Looky!  An OKC Energy FC soccer scarf spotted in Stilly...

[heironymouspasparagus]

Why on earth would you try to compare the Tulsa Athletics to the Thunder, Sooners and Cowboys?  

My attendance numbers are for our first year NPSL amateur club playing their home games at 15th & Yale.
Comparing an amateur soccer team's attendance to the NBA or college football is wholly inappropriate and more than a little silly.

Try comparing apples to apples, please...


The first year Tulsa Athletics average attendance last summer:  3,066 fans per game (putting us either at the top or just short of Chattanooga's numbers in a 61-team league).
The 2013 Tulsa Drillers: 5,704 per game at their brand new downtown ballpark.
The Tulsa Shock:  averaged between 4,800 and 5,200 per game over the past few years at the state of the art BOk Center.
The Tulsa Oilers:  4,166 per game at the BOk Center.
The Tulsa 66ers:  an average of around 2100? per game at the Spirit Bank Events Center, built at a cost of $50 million.

A few hours after watching coverage of Sporting KC winning MLS Cup at their sold out soccer specific stadium, I stood at 7th & Frankfort wondering what it would have been like to have had that final in downtown Tulsa and why we didn't seize the opportunity back when we had several real honest-to-goodness chances to get into MLS.  http://tulsanow.org/index.php/2005/12/in-the-mood-to-help-fund-a-downtown-soccer-stadium/

The first year Oklahoma City FC soccer club that plays in a league similar to Tulsa's drew 1,214 fans per game (yes sports fans, that's less than half the number of fans we drew last summer)

Yet, OKC is getting this in 2014... http://www.energyfc.com/en/home.html#0
...and this in 2015... http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=3&newsid=5055

Apples to apples, huh?  I might say something similar about your comparisons of shooting sports fans to criminals.


Seems like there may just be too much disagreement in the sport of soccer to move ahead very quickly - could be the source of your frustration....they can't even agree on the size of the field.

There's always curling!  But they can't seem to agree either....

[TulsaRufnex]

Apples to apples, huh?  I might say something similar about your comparisons of shooting sports fans to criminals.


Seems like there may just be too much disagreement in the sport of soccer to move ahead very quickly - could be the source of your frustration....they can't even agree on the size of the field.

There's always curling!  But they can't seem to agree either....

Proof positive that you're a total moron.

I'll be rooting for the people who mow their own grass... not the sports bureaucrats who will bring a poorly designed soccer field to ONEOK Park.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Proof positive that you're a total moron.

I'll be rooting for the people who mow their own grass... not the sports bureaucrats who will bring a poorly designed soccer field to ONEOK Park.

Ahhh, yes...reverting to name calling...the last plaintive bleat of those who can think of no coherent response.  Like the people who go all 'soccer' in a basketball thread....

And remind us again how mowing one's own grass relates to either basketball OR soccer?  Well, since you have once again slid into the murky morass of personal attack, I guess I can join you there and just chalk it all up to a typical characteristic of those soccerscum.  (You do remember your pivotal moment of ignorance, don't you??  One of many...one in particular back in February.)

How's that?  Down close enough to your level yet??

[TulsaRufnex]

 

The good people at the Tulsa Athletics mow their own grass.

All you care about is your "guns-on-demand" political position, which is the only reason you have for posting your anti-soccer bull mularkey.

Simple, eh?

[Laramie]

Serge Ibaka's two blocks on Joakim Noah, followed by a Kendrick Perkin's rebound and pass to K.D. with 2:50 left in the 2nd quarter leading to a fast break sparked by a Durant 3-pointer deflated the injury plagued Chicago Bulls en route to 107-95 victory.

[Laramie]

The incredible play of Golden State Warriors' Stephen Curry:

This kid is a rising star.

NBA All Star Ballot voting link:  http://allstarballot.nba.com/ballot?referrer=asb14_nbadrd&cid=asb14_nbadrd

[heironymouspasparagus]

The good people at the Tulsa Athletics mow their own grass.

All you care about is your "guns-on-demand" political position, which is the only reason you have for posting your anti-soccer bull mularkey.

Simple, eh?

But do they bag their grass?


The amazing thing is, I am not anti-soccer...I am anti-ignorant, uniformed, low, sloping brow mentalities that irrationally attack an entire family of sports enjoyed by tens, if not hundreds, of millions,  based on the actions of a handful criminals and other mental defectives.  I don't base my thoughts about soccer based on the criminal rioters who seem to wreak havoc way to often, especially at championship events.  They, too are just criminals who don't embody the sport as enjoyed by millions of non-criminals.

Simple?  Well, in keeping with your history....  Why, yes,...you are!!

[TulsaRufnex]

But do they bag their grass?


The amazing thing is, I am not anti-soccer...I am anti-ignorant, uniformed, low, sloping brow mentalities that irrationally attack an entire family of sports enjoyed by tens, if not hundreds, of millions,  based on the actions of a handful criminals and other mental defectives.  I don't base my thoughts about soccer based on the criminal rioters who seem to wreak havoc way to often, especially at championship events.  They, too are just criminals who don't embody the sport as enjoyed by millions of non-criminals.

Simple?  Well, in keeping with your history....  Why, yes,...you are!!

If you'd like to have a discussion about gun control, please start your own thread in the politics section.

[Laramie]

  San Antonio Spurs


San Antonio Spurs?  This team just doesn't seem to play the disciplined type ball in which they take over games like they use to play en route to four NBA championships (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007).

Houston Rockets just defeated the San Antonio Spurs 111-98.  Spurs are having problems with the more elite teams in the NBA.  Two home losses to Houston and home losses to Pacers & Thunder.

Spurs are 10-4 @ home and  12-3 on the road.

http://espn.go.com/nba/standings