Mid-town WalMart Market in old Homelands : 31st & Harvard

[Conan71]

Absolutely.  Automatic if they had similar heavy items like a couple of jugs of milk, or canned goods.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Did you provide double bagging upon request?

Yes we did. What a pain in the butt on a Saturday from mid morning to late afternoon.

Back to what Angie brought up about the Westside being underserved, when I was growing up in the late 60's and early 70's, there were two distinctive Westside's. You had the Redfork/Crystal City area of Hwy 75, I-44, and SW Blvd starting at the 11th st bridge. Then you had the Westside bounded by Denver, the river, and Edison with Charles Page running through the middle of it. It seems there was better grocery shopping along Charles Page than there was in Redfork/CC area.

[Rookie Okie]

Grocery bagger and stocker jobs where I was from were virtually impossible to get without a very serious connection.  You would have needed something like what it would take to get an ABLE appointment for one of those jobs back in the day!  But that didn't stop you from being an enterprising lad.  A lot of kids hung around the local supermarket to help load groceries into cars, especially on Fridays and Saturdays.  My hustle as a 9/10 year old was to ask the older women if I could push their groceries home in their personal push totes (those old school little upright carts).  I couldn't and wouldn't ask for money, but usually got a dime for my services plus the opportunity to hear about somebody's trifling husband, cat, or the unsolicited and uncensored details of the malady of the moment.  Believe me when those carts were loaded down, they could be a nuisance to maneuver over blocks and blocks of sidewalk cracks!

[TheAnsonia]

Then I think you would like Wegmans supermarkets, a large regional chain from my neck of the woods in upstate NY with stores also located in the mid-Atlantic.  I've shopped extensively at Krogers and Meijers when I lived in KY before moving here.  Believe me, neither can come close to Wegmans in anything that they do similarly.  I would drive past 5 or more of both of these stores to get to a Wegmans.   

Wegmans is considered upscale by industry analysts and is the top rated large supermarket chain as per Consumer Reports.  Noted for high quality customer service and for providing a unique shopping experience in impeccably clean stores, their prices are also reasonable and very competitive in the markets they serve.  They kick a$$ in most if not all of the key grocery store industry metrics.  Comparatively, Reasors prices are higher on average than Wegmans (Reasors stores are about half the size in sq footage).  In terms of offerings,  Wegmans is to Reasors as Reasors is to a Warehouse Mkt.  Wegmans is an innovator in the prepared (basic and specialty) food concepts and many of their stores have world market cafes.  It is mind blowing what you can take out for dinner or eat in the café.  The quality, freshness, and consistency of their produce and meats cannot be matched.  Their in-store bakeries and delis are also the best.  International foods, they carry from almost any and everywhere.  Fresh Market, Whole Foods, and other specialty/ healthy food outlets have negligible if any impact on them.  They also have an outstanding high quality store brand of a much larger array of products than most competitors carry (you can see examples of some of these in the background on some episodes of "The Office"). 

There is nothing here to compare Wegmans to, but I know without a doubt Tulsans would absolutely love this store. www.wegmans.com

Absolutely obsessed with Wegman's. I don't see them coming this far west, but I would simply be over the moon if they did.

[Rookie Okie]

Absolutely obsessed with Wegman's. I don't see them coming this far west, but I would simply be over the moon if they did.

Me too!

[Conan71]

Drove past at lunch, they are already loading the old building into dump trucks.  Looks weird without the old Homeland building on site. 

[patric]

The new Walmart food store is up, and they are already asking for a modification:

http://www.cityoftulsa-boa.org/Documents/Agendas/05-13-2014/BOA-21587-A.pdf

For the neighborhood, a pharmacy drive-thru is going to mean lots more lights than had been there before.
There's a right way to do it, and a wrong way (but you sure cant tell by the fuzzy plan on the BOA site).

[BKDotCom]

The new Walmart food store is up, and they are already asking for a modification:

http://www.cityoftulsa-boa.org/Documents/Agendas/05-13-2014/BOA-21587-A.pdf

For the neighborhood, a pharmacy drive-thru is going to mean lots more lights than had been there before.
There's a right way to do it, and a wrong way (but you sure cant tell by the fuzzy plan on the BOA site).

TL;DR
traffic lights, or light up the site lighting?

related:  opens June 11th

[sgrizzle]

The new Walmart food store is up, and they are already asking for a modification:

http://www.cityoftulsa-boa.org/Documents/Agendas/05-13-2014/BOA-21587-A.pdf

For the neighborhood, a pharmacy drive-thru is going to mean lots more lights than had been there before.
There's a right way to do it, and a wrong way (but you sure cant tell by the fuzzy plan on the BOA site).

If memory serves, where they are putting that drive through faces a strip center and is diagonal from some already well-lit apartments.

[nathanm]

If memory serves, where they are putting that drive through faces a strip center and is diagonal from some already well-lit apartments.

Yet another curb cut in that block is at least as objectionable, IMO. Excessive numbers of driveways cause unnecessary congestion.

[sgrizzle]

Yet another curb cut in that block is at least as objectionable, IMO. Excessive numbers of driveways cause unnecessary congestion.

From the drawings, I don't think they would need an additional curb cut.

[nathanm]

From the drawings, I don't think they would need an additional curb cut.

I didn't see it marked on the drawings, but the text stated that a new curb cut on Harvard would be allowed for direct access to the pharmacy drive through.

[patric]

If memory serves, where they are putting that drive through faces a strip center and is diagonal from some already well-lit apartments.

They key would be to arrange the drive-thru lighting so that it doesn't trespass beyond the commercial property into those apartment windows (Title 42 Section 1303-c).

These days it costs no more to install recessed lighting in a canopy (as opposed to drop-down lenses that scatter light in all directions), and since the light is more contained, you can save money by requiring less to do the job.

Shielded lighting is required of all PUDs, and many builders have done a good job in the past few years, while others need an occasional nudge in the right direction.

[Conan71]

WMM has the worst pharmacy service EVER.  Why do they even bother?

[BKDotCom]

WMM has the worst pharmacy service EVER.  Why do they even bother?

it's a tossup between walmart & walgreens