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Started by Hoss, January 13, 2014, 02:43:02 PM

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Conan71

They should have enough strip to get that 737 back up in the air with no pax, I'd think.

I seem to recall Delta had a problem with destination mix-ups about 20 years ago.  With the GPS and navaids available, it's surprising this still happens to anyone other than Wrongway Inhofe.
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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on January 13, 2014, 02:54:54 PM
They should have enough strip to get that 737 back up in the air with no pax, I'd think.

I seem to recall Delta had a problem with destination mix-ups about 20 years ago.  With the GPS and navaids available, it's surprising this still happens to anyone other than Wrongway Inhofe.

Looks like about 3,000 feet at 90,000 lbs with flaps 15 at that altitude.  Not bad but not a lot of room for error either.  Based on flightaware's designation that it's a 737-700.  The Boeing manual also states that aircraft with winglets have a little better performance.

Ed W

The Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System (EGPWS) is required on all commercial passenger aircraft, I think. It may be configured to warn pilots approaching the wrong runway, rolling too fast on a taxiway, or attempting to depart on a runway that's too short. Honeywell has some nice info on their website.

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Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on January 13, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
Looks like about 3,000 feet at 90,000 lbs with flaps 15 at that altitude.  Not bad but not a lot of room for error either.  Based on flightaware's designation that it's a 737-700.  The Boeing manual also states that aircraft with winglets have a little better performance.

I imagine if they had it spooled up before releasing the brakes should be a snap, especially on a cold morning.
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swake

I'm guessing the guys that landed it are not going to have to worry about the take off, from there or anywhere.

Hoss


Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on January 13, 2014, 03:17:21 PM
I imagine if they had it spooled up before releasing the brakes should be a snap, especially on a cold morning.

Yeah, somehow I guessed it wouldn't be a rolling takeoff.  :)

Gaspar

I watched the takeoff on CNN.  Seemed very normal.
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Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on January 13, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
I watched the takeoff on CNN.  Seemed very normal.

It landed here at 3:33pm.  A friend of mine said "Riverside better get ready"...LOL.

Conan71

How many clues did they miss they were at the wrong airport?  The alignment at Taney is 14/32, it's 12/30 at Branson.  They should have been on with Springfield approach and/or Branson tower at that time of day.  You'd think someone at either Springfield or Branson would have noticed they were not on target.  Tower operator would have noticed they didn't have a visual.  At least I'm assuming the tower at Branson is staffed early evening.
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Gaspar



14/32, 12/30, whatever it takes.
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Townsend

Quote from: swake on January 13, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
I'm guessing the guys that landed it are not going to have to worry about the take off, from there or anywhere.

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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on January 13, 2014, 04:15:39 PM
How many clues did they miss they were at the wrong airport?  The alignment at Taney is 14/32, it's 12/30 at Branson.  They should have been on with Springfield approach and/or Branson tower at that time of day.  You'd think someone at either Springfield or Branson would have noticed they were not on target.  Tower operator would have noticed they didn't have a visual.  At least I'm assuming the tower at Branson is staffed early evening.

Yep, sounds like ATC dropped the ball also.