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Started by Gaspar, January 30, 2014, 07:33:12 AM

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carltonplace

Quote from: Gaspar on January 30, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
and Democrats will receive more dependents (in the form of displaced American workers) willing to vote for a living.


This is just not true. Not a single word of it.

Hoss

Quote from: carltonplace on February 05, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
This is just not true. Not a single word of it.

CP, remember the source....

Gaspar

Quote from: swake on February 05, 2014, 08:13:57 AM
The type of person that would move thousands of miles against the fear of prosecution and persecution into a strange land in order to better their lives and their children's lives is what this country was built on.

That's why my family came here. That, and Nazis.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

carltonplace

Right Hoss, the poor are lazy and immigrants are criminals. All Hail the rich and their wonderful crumbs that fall from on high and into our gutter.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: carltonplace on February 05, 2014, 09:23:54 AM
Right Hoss, the poor are lazy and immigrants are criminals. All Hail the rich and their wonderful crumbs that fall from on high and into our gutter.


Actually, the illegals are criminals.... by definition.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: carltonplace on February 05, 2014, 09:23:54 AM
Right Hoss, the poor are lazy and immigrants are criminals. All Hail the rich and their wonderful crumbs that fall from on high and into our gutter.

No CP. The poor and lazy are not criminals. In this country we are free to choose how we live our lives and what we are able to achieve. We are therefore products of our choices and circumstance.  What is criminal, is when others tell us that we are unable to achieve, or that we are products of circumstance alone.  What is worse is when politicians use that mindset to their advantage and perpetuate it for their benefit. 

Also, not all lazy people are poor, and not all poor are lazy.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on February 06, 2014, 05:50:06 AM
No CP. The poor and lazy are not criminals. In this country we are free to choose how we live our lives and what we are able to achieve. We are therefore products of our choices and circumstance.  What is criminal, is when others tell us that we are unable to achieve, or that we are products of circumstance alone.  What is worse is when politicians use that mindset to their advantage and perpetuate it for their benefit. 

Also, not all lazy people are poor, and not all poor are lazy.

Tell Tea Party members that and you'll likely get laughed at.

Gaspar

Quote from: Hoss on February 06, 2014, 07:36:44 AM
Tell Tea Party members that and you'll likely get laughed at.

Do you know any Tea Party members?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on February 06, 2014, 07:41:17 AM
Do you know any Tea Party members?

Almost the whole of one side of my family..yes.

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on February 06, 2014, 08:56:14 AM
Family is very important.

Not when they start talking like bat-smoot-crazy loonies.

guido911

Quote from: Hoss on February 06, 2014, 08:58:19 AM
Not when they start talking like bat-smoot-crazy loonies.
That's what your family tells me about you.  :P  As an aside, here is a way to get at those stories about illegals using our roads and killing our citizens.

http://splashurl.com/kmwudf8
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

saintnicster

Quote from: guido911 on February 14, 2014, 04:17:57 PM
That's what your family tells me about you.  :P  As an aside, here is a way to get at those stories about illegals using our roads and killing our citizens.

http://splashurl.com/kmwudf8
Noticed recently.  Why hide everything behind a URL shortener?

EDIT - Especially one that has you wait 5 or so seconds and has you view an ad?  Needing some extra cash?

dbacksfan 2.0

Carl Seel is a member of the "black helicopter" squad.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/04/agenda_21_arizona_nutty_republicans_star_in_anti-agenda_21_hearing_the_highlight_reel.php

Here is the actual bill:
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"Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:

Section 1.  Title 13, chapter 37, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 13-3729, to read:

13-3729.  Unlawful use of public resources; vehicle forfeiture; classification; definition

A.  A person commits unlawful use of public resources if the person uses any public resource while present in this state in violation of any regulation, statute or court order or any other operation of law that has determined the person is not lawfully present in this state or that precludes the person from lawfully entering or remaining in this state, including an executive office for immigration review deportation order, a signed agreement to not return to the United States between the person and the United States Immigration and customs enforcement or an order by another state requiring the person to not leave that state while on bail or a similar court order.

B.  Any record that relates to the immigration status or illegal presence of a person in this state is admissible in any court without further foundation or testimony from a custodian of records if the record is certified as authentic by the government agency that is responsible for maintaining the record.

C.  Motor vehicles that are used in violation of this section are subject to seizure for forfeiture in the manner provided for in chapter 39 of this title.

D.  A violation of this section is a class 1 misdemeanor.  A second or subsequent violation of this section is a class 6 felony.

E.  For the purposes of this section, "uses any public resource" includes driving on a public road or highway, accepting any public benefit, attending a public school or using the services of any public entity in this state.


http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/hb2192p.htm&Session_ID=112



guido911

Quote from: saintnicster on February 14, 2014, 04:41:21 PM
Noticed recently.  Why hide everything behind a URL shortener?

EDIT - Especially one that has you wait 5 or so seconds and has you view an ad?  Needing some extra cash?
Not on purpose. I do not know how this started happening. Love for it to stop.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.