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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Hoss on June 25, 2014, 04:41:42 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/06/24/Putin-asks-Federation-Council-to-cancel-use-of-force-resolution-against-Ukraine/1291403607875/#ixzz35fD6sAfZ

Concession?


Another tactic.

When you push somewhere that resists, then back off and find somewhere else to push, until you find a soft spot that gives way.  Then push hard.

Kind of like kids "shopping around" for the right answer - asking parents separately, then grandparents, etc.  Till someone lets them have their way.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Airliner shot down. 295 dead including 23 Americans. President paused to speak on the matter:
"looks like it may be a terrible tragedy, right now we're working to determine whether there were American citizens on board. That is our first priority and I've directed my national security team to stay in close contact with the Ukrainian government," Mr. Obama said.   http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-says-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-may-be-a-terrible-tragedy/

He then hopped on Marine One to fly to NYC and attend two DNC fundraisers (this will make 396 total since 2009).  Both are to be held at the private mansions of donors and closed to the public and press.


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Yes, of course he should cancel all fundraisers and eliminate any closed door meetings when tragedies happen around the world. Just like all the Bushes did, the Clintons and the Reagans. Didn't they? Oh well, that would mean politics would be shut down indefinitely as there are tragedies everywhere, all the time.

Keep us posted now, y'hear?
onward...through the fog

heironymouspasparagus

The only reason it pays to do all that is the Supreme Court ruling that made corporations people.  Even before that, Bush was able to do half the campaigning when there were rules to limit it....   I think it is about time Obama was able to do something more than Bush did!!  Since Obama was unable to beat Bush on added debt, or Signing declarations, or Executive orders, or trillions spent on unnecessary wars, or the number of our kids killed and wounded!!  Still, campaign events seems a little bit of a letdown considering the history....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Townsend

Quote from: AquaMan on July 17, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
Yes, of course he should cancel all fundraisers and eliminate any closed door meetings when tragedies happen around the world. Just like all the Bushes did, the Clintons and the Reagans. Didn't they? Oh well, that would mean politics would be shut down indefinitely as there are tragedies everywhere, all the time.

Keep us posted now, y'hear?

Chug that Captain, Gaspar...chug him good.

Gaspar

Quote from: AquaMan on July 17, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
Yes, of course he should cancel all fundraisers and eliminate any closed door meetings when tragedies happen around the world. Just like all the Bushes did, the Clintons and the Reagans. Didn't they? Oh well, that would mean politics would be shut down indefinitely as there are tragedies everywhere, all the time.

Keep us posted now, y'hear?

You have to admit, when MSNBC's Alex Wagner is questioning why the president is choosing to attend fundraisers instead of addressing crises, the optics must be pretty bad.

It is the fog that seems to surround every crisis for this president. We're attacked again on 9/11 and he flies off to CA for a fundraiser.  He flies to within 190 miles of the border where there is a humanitarian crisis of massive proportions involving hundreds of thousands of children and he attends a fundraiser instead. Russia invades Crimea and it's a DNC fundraiser that night.  ISIS invades Mosel and it's off to Laguna Beach for two days for fundraisers.  

By the time he finishes his term (if he continues this pace) he will have attended more fundraisers than the past two presidents combined.  Very busy man.  He needs a vacation!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on July 17, 2014, 03:12:32 PM
You have to admit, when MSNBC's Alex Wagner is questioning why the president is choosing to attend fundraisers instead of addressing crises, the optics must be pretty bad.

It is the fog that seems to surround every crisis for this president. We're attacked again on 9/11 and he flies off to CA for a fundraiser.  He flies to within 190 miles of the border where there is a humanitarian crisis of massive proportions involving hundreds of thousands of children and he attends a fundraiser instead. Russia invades Crimea and it's a DNC fundraiser that night.  ISIS invades Mosel and it's off to Laguna Beach for two days for fundraisers.  

By the time he finishes his term (if he continues this pace) he will have attended more fundraisers than the past two presidents combined.  Very busy man.  He needs a vacation!


AquaMan

Great pic.
Why would I care what Alex Wagner says? More importantly why wouold you?

Excuse me, I have to go raise some funds to buy some food since my better half is up in socialist Mn visiting pudding brained liberals. It's a personal tragedy for me.
onward...through the fog

guido911

I cannot handle all this tranquility Obama is responsible for bringing in the world. I am also so grateful for the reset button pushing.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: AquaMan on July 17, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
Yes, of course he should cancel all fundraisers and eliminate any closed door meetings when tragedies happen around the world. Just like all the Bushes did, the Clintons and the Reagans. Didn't they? Oh well, that would mean politics would be shut down indefinitely as there are tragedies everywhere, all the time.

Keep us posted now, y'hear?

And Bush was crucified for his My Pet Goat moment. But I guess the difference is that only 23 Americans were possibly lost in Ukraine. Oh well, time to party with donors--just like after Benghazi.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on July 17, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
And Bush was crucified for his My Pet Goat moment. But I guess the difference is that only 23 Americans were possibly lost in Ukraine. Oh well, time to party with donors--just like after Benghazi.


Or Bush when more than 30 embassy personnel were killed.....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on July 17, 2014, 05:47:48 PM

Or Bush when more than 30 embassy personnel were killed.....



I know, Bush flew off to Vegas on a fundraising trip each time an embassy was attacked. And we know Bush blamed a video. So did Clinton. So did Reagan. And I could be mistaken, but I think Carter blamed a video when the Iranians kidnapped our embassy people. We all know Carter did nothing in response to that event.

So we should cut Obama a break or just ignore what he does that could be perceived as weak or rear end covering because the same thing happened elsewhere and under other presidents. 
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on July 17, 2014, 07:10:44 PM
I know, Bush flew off to Vegas on a fundraising trip each time an embassy was attacked. And we know Bush blamed a video. So did Clinton. So did Reagan. And I could be mistaken, but I think Carter blamed a video when the Iranians kidnapped our embassy people. We all know Carter did nothing in response to that event.

So we should cut Obama a break or just ignore what he does that could be perceived as weak or rear end covering because the same thing happened elsewhere and under other presidents. 

Never said any of that...in fact, should never ignore anything Obama says/does, since he was immediately suspect from the git-go due to his stand on the Second Amendment.  What I say is to NOT ignore what Bush and all the rest of them do, either.  Just because they present themselves as wrapped up in the American flag, and wax poetic about their piety, does not mean we should let them get by, either.  The RWRE gives Bush a 'pass' - nay, they sanctify him! - at every point, regardless.  If anyone deserved to be impeached since Nixon, it was Bush.  But hey, that wouldn't go well with "The Script" now, would it??

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

I don't want anyone impeached. That's not the issue. Here we have what Sen Carl Levin (rabid right winger) has described as a possible "act of war" in the Ukraine, Israel has started a ground offensive in Gaza, and Obama is at a freakin fund raiser. This is just TODAY. Forget about ISIS, our southern border disaster, Syrian chemical weapons attacks, etc.

Link to Levin comments.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/17/congress-mh17-crash-is-act-of-terror-and-putin-may-be-to-blame.html
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

And here is another rapid right winger not getting Obama.



I hope someone is beating on the reset button really hard right now.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.