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AquaMan

#330
Quote from: guido911 on July 17, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
And Bush was crucified for his My Pet Goat moment. But I guess the difference is that only 23 Americans were possibly lost in Ukraine. Oh well, time to party with donors--just like after Benghazi.

Geez you're dense lately. The point is not that Bush was crucified for it. The point is that you can't shut down the system of politics and governing because of continuous tragedies around the world involving Americans. BTW, politics and governing are practically one and the same.

I think if you re-read your own posts you will realize how impossible it would be for our current and previous presidents to have been at all these disasters to, what, show their sympathy, outrage and pledge to investigate... in person? They chose their appearances carefully. Your hatred and distrust of Obama's leadership or your insistence of lack of leadership is truly blinding to reality.

Any more talking heads from that journalist industry you conservatives hold in such high esteem? How about Geraldo. What's he saying?
onward...through the fog

Hoss

Quote from: AquaMan on July 17, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
Geez you're dense lately. The point is not that Bush was crucified for it. The point is that you can't shut down the system of politics and governing because of continuous tragedies around the world involving Americans. BTW, politics and governing are practically one and the same.

I think if you re-read your own posts you will realize how impossible it would be for our current and previous presidents to have been at all these disasters to, what, show their sympathy, outrage and pledge to investigate... in person? They chose their appearances carefully. Your hatred and distrust of Obama's leadership or your insistence of lack of leadership is truly blinding to reality.

Any more talking heads from that journalist industry you conservatives hold in such high esteem? How about Geraldo. What's he saying?

You used journalist and Geraldo in the same paragraph....  :D

guido911

Quote from: AquaMan on July 17, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
Geez you're dense lately. The point is not that Bush was crucified for it. The point is that you can't shut down the system of politics and governing because of continuous tragedies around the world involving Americans. BTW, politics and governing are practically one and the same.

I think if you re-read your own posts you will realize how impossible it would be for our current and previous presidents to have been at all these disasters to, what, show their sympathy, outrage and pledge to investigate... in person? They chose their appearances carefully. Your hatred and distrust of Obama's leadership or your insistence of lack of leadership is truly blinding to reality.

Any more talking heads from that journalist industry you conservatives hold in such high esteem? How about Geraldo. What's he saying?

Are you really that dense? Obama's at a FUNDRAISER! Do you really think Obama going to a fundraiser is an acceptable response to an airliner being shot down and Israel essentially invading Gaza? This ain't about attending to other government business. And quit accusing me of hating on Obama. I have said nice things about the guy.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.


heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on July 17, 2014, 11:01:33 PM
Here are other people's opinions on Obama's handling of these crises.

Burger runs must go on. We all know this is so important.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/07/17/with-ukraine-crisis-unfolding-obama-presses-forward-with-burger-joint-photo-op-infrastructure-speech-n1863240

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/489824432018714626



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.html





As opposed to 5 minutes of intense leadership...acknowledging the tragedy, commiserating with the victims and families.... oh, wait....just happy to be with the kids....  after all, that IS his happy place....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_rFXXz_44

With expert behavioral analysis - well, at least as expert as Bush was;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk


I think there should be a law that prevents any public showing or appearance by a leader in less than a couple hours after these type events - give some time to unscramble the brains and get valid information.  Bush's Secret Service detail failed in a big part of their mission - by definition, they should have taken him out of that class and moved him to safe location - THAT is their #1 criteria in emergency response after protecting the life of the President from any immediate threat!


As for Piers Morgan....geez, guido, I am really starting to worry about you with a reference to that waste of oxygen on this planet....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: AquaMan on July 17, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
The point is that you can't shut down the system of politics and governing because of continuous tragedies around the world involving Americans.

I had no idea these fundraisers and golf vacations were so vital to our national security? 

Are you sure this position will be of advantage to you in the future? ::)
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

#336
Quote from: guido911 on July 17, 2014, 10:40:58 PM
Are you really that dense? Obama's at a FUNDRAISER! Do you really think Obama going to a fundraiser is an acceptable response to an airliner being shot down and Israel essentially invading Gaza? This ain't about attending to other government business. And quit accusing me of hating on Obama. I have said nice things about the guy.

Density varies with quality of post.

You think that was the only thing Obama did that day? You've been digesting too much protein lately (hint: causes Gas).

You and Gas chose to frame his response in the worst possible way. One that reflects a shallow view of government. One that reflects manipulation of facts. Now, journalists are your friend rather than the liberal elite? Piers Morgan who is seeking to reclaim his credibility?

Your choice but you have to suffer the criticism for doing so. Maybe you're just a hater in general but when spin gets in the way of how management/governing really works, ala the world of Gas, it just looks like anti-Obama.

(edited because my battery died on the laptop)
onward...through the fog

AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on July 18, 2014, 07:35:34 AM
I had no idea these fundraisers and golf vacations were so vital to our national security? 

Are you sure this position will be of advantage to you in the future? ::)

How many of these fundraisers and golf vacations with leaders of state have you been privy to?
onward...through the fog

Gaspar

Quote from: AquaMan on July 18, 2014, 08:35:19 AM
. . .fundraisers and golf vacations with leaders of state . . .

;D
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Come on guys, lay off our Celebrity In Chief.  Fundraising is a crucial function of the presidency.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Supposedly a recorded phone call from separatists to Russia, "we just shot down a plane".

There's attempts to find out if the missile came from one side or the other side of the border.

RecycleMichael

What did you expect the President of the United States to do? What could he possibly do that would have satisfied your expectations that you would have not just criticized him for?

What did you do differently? How come you did not immediately drop everything and get immersed in this issue 10,000 miles away? How do you know he didn't do a whole bunch of things and also did a bunch of unrelated things that are part of his everyday job?

This has got to be a new low for you Obama haters. There is plenty of things that he should be criticized for, but this wave of complaints that he actually kept working after a foreign incident happened is petty and plain stupid.
Power is nothing till you use it.

guido911

Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 18, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
What did you expect the President of the United States to do? What could he possibly do that would have satisfied your expectations that you would have not just criticized him for?

What did you do differently? How come you did not immediately drop everything and get immersed in this issue 10,000 miles away? How do you know he didn't do a whole bunch of things and also did a bunch of unrelated things that are part of his everyday job?

This has got to be a new low for you Obama haters. There is plenty of things that he should be criticized for, but this wave of complaints that he actually kept working after a foreign incident happened is petty and plain stupid.

I understand. Going on photo ops and two fundraisers is a suitable way to lead the free world after a plane is shot down (killing an American) and Israel essentially invades Gaza. I guess our pres now needs a vacation from all that work.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

RecycleMichael

Step up big boy.

Tell us what you would do right this second about a plane being shot down in Ukraine. Right this second. Tell us.

We are waiting. 
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 18, 2014, 01:43:58 PM
Step up big boy.

Tell us what you would do right this second about a plane being shot down in Ukraine. Right this second. Tell us.

We are waiting. 

He's reading "My Pet Goat".  Give him a minute.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan