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Started by Gaspar, March 12, 2014, 08:38:48 AM

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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on March 23, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Dude at least you are in Oregon.  And Washington is a relatively short drive once the hops quit drowning out the noise. 

Where's that doobie smoking emoji when you need one?

I tried some pretty good brews while in Tennessee this weekend.  Two of the Yazoo offerings and Hap & Harry's (essentially, Jack Daniels beer).  Both of the Yazoos were good.  The Hap & Harry's was not very memorable.

dbacksfan 2.0

Quote from: Conan71 on March 23, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Dude at least you are in Oregon.  And Washington is a relatively short drive once the hops quit drowning out the noise.  

Where's that doobie smoking emoji when you need one?

Yeah, plenty of brews around and now one local microw brew that makes a good porter is filling growlers. As for the doobieage, I can't, a couple of prospetive jobs in other states don't care if it's legal here, they test and it will be a guaranteed fail.

Conan71

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on March 23, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
Yeah, plenty of brews around and now one local microw brew that makes a good porter is filling growlers. As for the doobieage, I can't, a couple of prospetive jobs in other states don't care if it's legal here, they test and it will be a guaranteed fail.

Yeah, me either, but occasionally I do channel memories of my younger days for a good contact high.  ;)

And speaking of micros, I seem to have cloned a near perfect rip off on Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA.  Deschutes is a lot like Odell, I have not had one of their beers I did not like a a lot.

Oh, to keep this on topic- Romney isn't running, therefore Palin won't be his running mate. 

G'night all!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

swake

Quote from: Conan71 on March 23, 2015, 10:54:28 PM

Oh, to keep this on topic- Romney isn't running, therefore Palin won't be his running mate. 

G'night all!

Hey, she's still going to be around. She and Trump will flirt with running right up until they would have to file income disclosures. Looking like she's running makes her "PAC" money.

Townsend

Quote from: swake on March 24, 2015, 08:31:52 AM
Hey, she's still going to be around. She and Trump will flirt with running right up until they would have to file income disclosures. Looking like she's running makes her "PAC" money.

Man, she found her money ticket and rode that carnival ride like a 8 year old that just made the height requirement didn't she?

RecycleMichael

I considered voting for Palin. I try to vote by looks.

Then she spoke.
Power is nothing till you use it.

dbacksfan 2.0

I have a problem with how far Right Cruz is, he says wants to appeal to concervatives but I don't fall in line with the Falwell/Robertson/700 Club conservatives. (Or can I call them Looney's?)

Also he's going for the bait and switch saying he will repeal every word of ACA, which he has to know can't be done, and then will say well it's more difficult than we thought.

As for Palin, hasn't she passed her expiration date by a couple of years, to the point where she's like the left overs in the fridge at work that no one claims, and no one can identify?

Conan71

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on March 24, 2015, 11:38:25 AM

As for Palin, hasn't she passed her expiration date by a couple of years, to the point where she's like the left overs in the fridge at work that no one claims, and no one can identify?

Yeah but even after you throw it out you can't get past that lingering, annoying odor.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

dbacksfan 2.0

Quote from: Conan71 on March 24, 2015, 11:47:15 AM
Yeah but even after you throw it out you can't get past that lingering, annoying odor.

True, very true.

One thing I forgot about Cruz, is that he is a no compromise person, and unfortunately if he gets in, nothing will change, it will just be the same bickering, stalemates, threats of shutdowns, and  orange face mcboozy pants telling reporters to kiss his donkey.

Ed W

Not to worry. The American electorate will not suddenly become a majority of far-right zealots. Cruz doesn't have a realistic chance of attaining the oval office, though some think his true aim is the VP slot. A more moderate Republican with wider appeal could use him to rope in the right fringe. The question is, would Cruz' ego play along?
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Townsend

Quote from: Ed W on March 24, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Not to worry. The American electorate will not suddenly become a majority of far-right zealots. Cruz doesn't have a realistic chance of attaining the oval office, though some think his true aim is the VP slot. A more moderate Republican with wider appeal could use him to rope in the right fringe. The question is, would Cruz' ego play along?

One heartbeat away from all out cra cra.  While I think his thing is an act, I fear the people who follow him.

Gaspar

Quote from: Ed W on March 24, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Not to worry. The American electorate will not suddenly become a majority of far-right zealots. Cruz doesn't have a realistic chance of attaining the oval office, though some think his true aim is the VP slot. A more moderate Republican with wider appeal could use him to rope in the right fringe. The question is, would Cruz' ego play along?

That's an interesting take. Cruise neither has the aesthetic or message to be the president, but he does pull quite a bit of Tea Party influence with his anti-entitlement stance. However I think this is still an exercise in nurturing the message.  There is no way any candidate, Republican, Democrat, or Martian can mount a resistance to the Clinton machine, so I think this is all an effort to show some momentum with experimental candidates.  I think we will see Trump, Huckabee, and Paul (of course), all emerge to draw fire from different directions.

Ultimately, Scott Walker will be the candidate but it will all be in preparation for 2020 (or for the off chance that Hillary stumbles).  I personally like Ben Carson, but he's not a politician and hasn't lived his life in a way that would allow him to transition into that pit of fire and lies. I actually like him so much that I would rather not see him run, because I think it would be destructive to him.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

swake

Quote from: Gaspar on March 24, 2015, 02:30:45 PM
I personally like Ben Carson, but he's not a politician and hasn't lived his life in a way that would allow him to transition into that pit of fire and lies. I actually like him so much that I would rather not see him run, because I think it would be destructive to him.

Ben Carson huh?

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/20/ben_carsons_fresh_foreign_policy_just_sort_of_slip_palestinians_down_to_egypt/
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"We need to look at fresh ideas," said Carson. "I don't have any problem with the Palestinians having a state, but does it need to be within the confines of Israeli territory? Is that necessary, or can you sort of slip that area down into Egypt? Right below Israel, they have some amount of territory, and it can be adjacent. They can benefit from the many agricultural advances that were made by Israel, because if you fly over that area, you can easily see the demarcation between Egypt and Israel, in terms of one being desert and one being verdant. Technology could transform that area. So why does it need to be in an area where there's going to be temptation for Hamas to continue firing missiles at relatively close range to Israel?"

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party?currentPage=2
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On several occasions, I tried to get Carson to concede that his analogy likening the U.S. to Nazi Germany was out of line (he's said that Americans under Obama are as intimidated and afraid to criticize their government as Germans under the Third Reich). But he refused to give any ground. Our longest discussion about the matter came in Jerusalem, in the cafeteria of the Holocaust museum at Yad Vashem. We'd spent the previous ninety minutes touring the museum, followed by Carson entering Yad Vashem's Hall of Remembrance and, black kippah atop his head, laying a wreath made of red, pink, and orange poppies that read "Courage and Truth Will Win: In loving memory the 6 million." Given all this, I asked Carson, did it make him reconsider his analogy?

"Not at all," he said. "It makes it even stronger."

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Appearing on CNN's "New Day," the potential GOP presidential candidate told host Chris Cuomo that the fight for marriage equality bore no resemblance to the civil rights struggle in part because people have "no control" of their race. That prompted Cuomo to ask whether Carson believed homosexuality is a choice.

"Absolutely," Carson replied. "Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight — and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question," he added.

He's a science denying young earth creationist. Yeah, he's just great.






Hoss

Quote from: swake on March 24, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
Ben Carson huh?

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/20/ben_carsons_fresh_foreign_policy_just_sort_of_slip_palestinians_down_to_egypt/
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party?currentPage=2
He's a science denying young earth creationist. Yeah, he's just great.







It's crazy.  I have a good friend of mine who honestly suggested to me while at McNellie's one day (might have been part of it) that Carson would be a good President.  He called him doctor.

I asked him to stop drinking immediately.

Gaspar

Quote from: swake on March 24, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
Ben Carson huh?

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/20/ben_carsons_fresh_foreign_policy_just_sort_of_slip_palestinians_down_to_egypt/
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party?currentPage=2
He's a science denying young earth creationist. Yeah, he's just great.

Don't worry your little head. Much like Herman Cain (a man I've actually met), the left decided Carson's fate long before he could ever mount any challenge. He represents everything that the left reviles.

He is America; hard-working, successful, morally conservative, religious, and independent of thought.  As I said above, he is not a politician so he is prone to speak his mind, his faith, and openly defend his philosophies.  To the left he is a unicorn. An anomaly that should not exist.

Your response was perfect.  ;)

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.