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TulsaNow endorsement of Jail/Juvenile Center sales tax vote

Started by RecycleMichael, March 13, 2014, 12:57:36 PM

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Conan71

There are a lot of people who don't seem to be aware there is an election today.  Seems like the county should have added this to a general ballot election.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on April 01, 2014, 01:38:19 PM
There are a lot of people who don't seem to be aware there is an election today.  Seems like the county should have added this to a general ballot election.

I'm guessing a more positive outcome regarding a smaller turnout.

RecycleMichael

Power is nothing till you use it.

Ed W

My precinct saw only 175 voters by 4 in the afternoon. More will show up after work, but it's a dismal turnout regardless.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Hoss

Quote from: Ed W on April 01, 2014, 04:46:33 PM
My precinct saw only 175 voters by 4 in the afternoon. More will show up after work, but it's a dismal turnout regardless.

Well, mine was a two sheeter; the counter on my machine when I completed said 50.  It counted both sheets so I can only assume I was voter number 25 at about 4:30 pm.

Red Arrow

 

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swake


Conan71

#146 at Berean Baptist Church (21st & Darlington) at 5pm.

Hey, even with low turn-out it passed, I didn't see that coming but glad it did.

Curious how many people who didn't vote will complain it "got shoved down our throats!"?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Tulsa World has a breakdown by precinct.  Ours was 117 total.  64 yes,  53 against.
 

patric

By expanding our jail to accommodate the War On Drugs, we fall further behind the rest of the nation:

The public appears ready for a truce in the long-running war on drugs. A national survey by the Pew Research Center finds that 67% of Americans say that the government should focus more on providing treatment for those who use illegal drugs such as heroin and cocaine. Just 26% think the government's focus should be on prosecuting users of such hard drugs.


http://www.people-press.org/2014/04/02/americas-new-drug-policy-landscape/

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

AquaMan

You know, not everyone in jail is there because they sold or possessed drugs.
onward...through the fog

swake

Quote from: AquaMan on April 02, 2014, 10:51:03 AM
You know, not everyone in jail is there because they sold or possessed drugs.

Not everyone, but huge percentages are. Over half of all Federal prisoners most serious crime was a drug crime. That true for 20% of people in state prisons. With Oklahoma's draconian drug laws we are assuredly well above 20%.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/13/wonkbook-11-facts-about-americas-prison-population/

patric

Quote from: swake on April 02, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
Not everyone, but huge percentages are. Over half of all Federal prisoners most serious crime was a drug crime. That true for 20% of people in state prisons. With Oklahoma's draconian drug laws we are assuredly well above 20%.

Ditto with Moss Jail, whose overcrowding problems are not going to be solved (in the long term) by adding more wings.

As far as those insidious out-of-state voter mailings criticizing the county for breaking it's "temporary tax" promise; I got three times as many from the vote YES lobby.  Except for the message, the vote YES and vote NO cards seem to be virtually identical. 

So, who were the deep pockets on each side?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: AquaMan on April 02, 2014, 10:51:03 AM
You know, not everyone in jail is there because they sold or possessed drugs.

Nope.  Just most.

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