zoning change at 21st and Boston

[Cats Cats Cats]

What on earth needs to be built there that can't be done on the vacant lot on the other side of the intersection?

Its probably one of these reasons.  Maybe the spot building on it is $300,000 and they want $3 million for an empty lot across the street (seen a few of these recently).  Cause all that no building makes it worth 10x more, they don't want to sell that land, or want too much for it.  

[AquaMan]

Its a perfectly awful spot for a shopping center. Its an uphill left turn from Riverside. Its a downhill entry from Lee school at a practically blind corner on Boston. Unless they purchase the half million dollar property immediately to the east or the offices to the north, its no more than a strip center at best. If they do purchase those properties, the pedestrian path crosses right through them.

It may explain why the traffic signal went from a user operated stop light for pedestrians to an automatic interval traffic light which no one asked for. Because of another traffic signal at Cincinnati a block away, it causes traffic to back up in both directions. Traffic from Riverside now waits uphill for no particular reason.

I have lived near Lee for nearly 38 years and now have to go around Boulder park to 18th to avoid a suburban style traffic jam at rush hour. We had hoped to see the old Louisiane torn down and a nice shopping area added from there southward where it belongs. Really dumb to ignore existing vacant land to increase traffic and diminish the 'hood. But we seem to do a lot of that.

[SXSW]

Where did you see this, on the TMAPC agenda or is there a sign up for the zoning change?  The neighborhood should fight this.

[AquaMan]

Sign just popped up in front of the property this week. Hard to see. I jog past it. Hearing on June 5 iirc.

Its not part of Maple Ridge but they should certainly be involved.

[SXSW]

Sign just popped up in front of the property this week. Hard to see. I jog past it. Hearing on June 5 iirc.

Its not part of Maple Ridge but they should certainly be involved.

Out of town all week, if you could post any more details I'll relay to those I know living in Maple Ridge.

[AquaMan]

Out of town all week, if you could post any more details I'll relay to those I know living in Maple Ridge.

Thanks. It's Wednesday June 4th.

[SXSW]

I just checked the TMAPC website, it looks like this is the northwest corner of 21st & Boston not the red-tile roof apartments across the street.  I'd be interested in what retail is planned, and their site plan.  It could be okay if it fronts 21st and Boston, or if a restaurant, has outdoor seating facing the park with parking to the north.

[davideinstein]

Its bad enough the city added a new traffic light at 21st and the Pedestrian path that was unnecessary and causes traffic to back up twice in a one block space.

Have you ever tried crossing that path during peak hours? I would assume not. I ran that trail for years and it was awful to cross.

[Townsend]

Have you ever tried crossing that path during peak hours? I would assume not. I ran that trail for years and it was awful to cross.

Good for raising the heart rate?

[davideinstein]

Good for raising the heart rate?

Pretty much.

[AquaMan]

I just checked the TMAPC website, it looks like this is the northwest corner of 21st & Boston not the red-tile roof apartments across the street.  I'd be interested in what retail is planned, and their site plan.  It could be okay if it fronts 21st and Boston, or if a restaurant, has outdoor seating facing the park with parking to the north.

Gosh I hope you're right. The sign is in front of the apartments.I agree that location would be better.

[AquaMan]

Have you ever tried crossing that path during peak hours? I would assume not. I ran that trail for years and it was awful to cross.

About three times per week. I didn't mind the pedestrian actuated lights for those with strollers or kids but the automatic interval traffic light is overkill and counter productive.

[Conan71]

About three times per week. I didn't mind the pedestrian actuated lights for those with strollers or kids but the automatic interval traffic light is overkill and counter productive.

The light seems redundantly redundant. 

[AquaMan]

Abundantly so.

[DowntownDan]

I just checked the TMAPC website, it looks like this is the northwest corner of 21st & Boston not the red-tile roof apartments across the street.  I'd be interested in what retail is planned, and their site plan.  It could be okay if it fronts 21st and Boston, or if a restaurant, has outdoor seating facing the park with parking to the north.

That would make more sense.  There is a small building there that has been some different things but nothing noteworthy that I can tell as far as architecture or history.  I think it'd be nice for a restaurant there with a patio view of Veterans Park. 

Also, I run the trail quite often and I like the light.  I drive by there a lot and rarely have experienced a backup of traffic.