7th & Elgin housing

[sgrizzle]

The apartment building on the NE corner of 7th & Elgin (owned by Elliot Nelson I believe) had signs up for the developer and now the two small houses directly north of the building have been removed.

Progress coming?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Progress coming?

No.  Not likely. 

[DTowner]

No.  Not likely. 

Saw this last night.  While skepticism is always warranted with downtown development, especially in this part of downtown, this seems like a very positive event.

[DowntownDan]

Saw today that the other building on that block bordering 6th had a new fence installed around the south side of the building.  I think it was a charity home for pregnant women (or something similar) but I think I read that it was part of Nelson's housing plan along with the building on the south end of that block bordering 7th.  Dirt is moving and things are happening so that's always a good preliminary sign. 

There is also a new "for sale or lease" sign on the building across the street that has been a number of different bars.  The tenants there always seemed a bit shady to me.  It seems like a good spot though if the Elgin entertainment district start's moving south and with new people living nearby in the Nelson housing project and the Bill White Chevy lofts, which has had ongoing construction for several months now.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Saw this last night.  While skepticism is always warranted with downtown development, especially in this part of downtown, this seems like a very positive event.

I hope so!  I have always liked downtown a great deal.  Was around in the 60's and 70's when we went through those dark time spasms of "urban renewal" - which means eradication of one's history and architecture.  But we got the Williams companies buildings!!  It's not like they coulda gone out to an unoccupied area of town to build....  (Hint:  Oral Roberts did it, so they could have, too.)

[Conan71]

I hope so!  I have always liked downtown a great deal.  Was around in the 60's and 70's when we went through those dark time spasms of "urban renewal" - which means eradication of one's history and architecture.  But we got the Williams companies buildings!!  It's not like they coulda gone out to an unoccupied area of town to build....  (Hint:  Oral Roberts did it, so they could have, too.)

And the cruel irony there?

We still can't get rid of that sh!t stain Oral left on the south end of downtown called "The Abundant Life Building".

[heironymouspasparagus]

And the cruel irony there?

We still can't get rid of that sh!t stain Oral left on the south end of downtown called "The Abundant Life Building".

Oh, yeah!!  I had forgotten all about that one!  I was actually referring to the large golden ph$llus down on south Lewis (not sure I can say that....).  The one that pays homage to his Imperial Majesty...





And to be clear, since inflection is so difficult with text - THAT contains sarcasm and scorn for his IM.

[DTowner]

I hope so!  I have always liked downtown a great deal.  Was around in the 60's and 70's when we went through those dark time spasms of "urban renewal" - which means eradication of one's history and architecture.  But we got the Williams companies buildings!!  It's not like they coulda gone out to an unoccupied area of town to build....  (Hint:  Oral Roberts did it, so they could have, too.)

Plenty of mistakes were made in the name of "urban renewal," but thank God Williams did not build a suburban campus or Tulsa's downtown would not have survived the 1980s and 90s.

[sgrizzle]

Saw today that the other building on that block bordering 6th had a new fence installed around the south side of the building.  I think it was a charity home for pregnant women (or something similar) but I think I read that it was part of Nelson's housing plan along with the building on the south end of that block bordering 7th.  Dirt is moving and things are happening so that's always a good preliminary sign. 

There is also a new "for sale or lease" sign on the building across the street that has been a number of different bars.  The tenants there always seemed a bit shady to me.  It seems like a good spot though if the Elgin entertainment district start's moving south and with new people living nearby in the Nelson housing project and the Bill White Chevy lofts, which has had ongoing construction for several months now.

I heard that was a Sager-owned building.

[Conan71]

I heard that was a Sager-owned building.

So that means none of us will live long enough to see it completed?

[TheArtist]

Plenty of mistakes were made in the name of "urban renewal," but thank God Williams did not build a suburban campus or Tulsa's downtown would not have survived the 1980s and 90s.

They did build a suburban campus, they just built it downtown. I do get your point though.  However, now that the 80s are over and more people are wanting true urban, pedestrian friendly environments to live and work in, those buildings are hurtful to that.  Glad the people and workers are downtown of course, but a lot of those 80s buildings are just as hurtful to any pedestrian environment today (especially urban retail) as when they were built.

[Conan71]

Actually, The Artist's post brought up something I'd forgotten.

Williams did build a south Tulsa campus in the early/mid-1970's and they did move jobs previously done downtown out south.  It was Resource Sciences Corporation which was a subsidiary of Williams.  It's at 66th & Yale on the west side, now known as a Warren Clinic site.  RSC was in the taller building and there were other exploration companies (I believe most were affiliated with Williams).

My mother worked in the corporate communications department both at the downtown and south complex when her position was moved out there.

[sgrizzle]

So that means none of us will live long enough to see it completed?

It's for sale so I'm thinking it means he needs money.

[DowntownDan]

On my morning drive I saw that this building is now fenced off and it looks like work will soon begin.  I imagine the interior needs some extensive work.  I've been driving by it every week for almost six years now and the vagrants that occupied it for several years surely did not upkeep very well.  Very nice to see progress.  It's also just a few blocks from the Bill White development.  I'm still curious about how that will eventually look.

[carltonplace]

The COHN group sent an update on this recently. The building is being turned into mid-priced apartments.