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Started by TMS, June 09, 2014, 10:36:40 PM

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TMS

Hi. Can anyone tell me what taxes the city of Tulsa gets from local casino operations?

Thanks in advance!
 

swake

Quote from: TMS on June 09, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Hi. Can anyone tell me what taxes the city of Tulsa gets from local casino operations?

Thanks in advance!

The casinos are on reserved land and not legally in Tulsa.

Breadburner

If anything they drain potential revenue from the city.....
 

AquaMan

Quote from: Breadburner on June 10, 2014, 07:30:14 AM
If anything they drain potential revenue from the city.....

A large actual drain.
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cannon_fodder

The casinos are on Indian Trust land technically owned by Uncle Sam or the benefit of the tribe.  Tulsa gets nothing.  In fact, even Oklahoma law only applies there to the extent the tribe wants it ton...
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patric

Quote from: cannon_fodder on June 10, 2014, 12:32:01 PM
The casinos are on Indian Trust land technically owned by Uncle Sam or the benefit of the tribe.  Tulsa gets nothing.  In fact, even Oklahoma law only applies there to the extent the tribe wants it to...

Not even zoning laws apply, yet the taxpayers are expected to provide infrastructure.
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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on June 10, 2014, 01:47:42 PM
Not even zoning laws apply, yet the taxpayers are expected to provide infrastructure.


That's because they are a sovereign nation.  And Tulsa is still thrilled to provide that infrastructure, 'cause of all the tourist dollars it brings in to the surrounding areas....


Another goofball rationalization related to "growth for growth's sake"....
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Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 10, 2014, 02:24:36 PM

That's because they are a sovereign nation.  And Tulsa is still thrilled to provide that infrastructure, 'cause of all the tourist dollars it brings in to the surrounding areas....


Another goofball rationalization related to "growth for growth's sake"....


???

Tourist dollars to surrounding areas?  They gamble, eat, drink, watch shows then gas up their RV at the tribal gas stop on their way off the property.
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DTowner

Under the model gaming compact adopted a number of years ago by Oklahoma voters, tribes can enter into a gaming compact with the State of Oklahoma to offer Class III gaming (table games, etc.).  The compact provides a revenue percentage pay out to the State from Class III games.  Cities and counties do not get any of this money and cannot collect any sales tax on any transactions at Indian casinos.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on June 10, 2014, 03:04:34 PM
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Tourist dollars to surrounding areas?  They gamble, eat, drink, watch shows then gas up their RV at the tribal gas stop on their way off the property.


Exactly!!   My whole point about "growth for the sake of growth's sake".

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Sales taxes from purchases made by employees of the casinos. property taxes from the homes owned by employees of casinos...
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Quote from: guido911 on June 11, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
Sales taxes from purchases made by employees of the casinos. property taxes from the homes owned by employees of casinos...

Unless they live in Indian housing and blow all their disposable income at the Indian smoke shops and Indian banks (casinos).
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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on June 11, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
Sales taxes from purchases made by employees of the casinos. property taxes from the homes owned by employees of casinos...


Have only known one casino employee - a nephew - and he was minimum wage.  Couldn't afford house.
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rdj

I could be wrong but I believe they voluntarily pay into the hotel/motel tax that funds the Convention & Visitors Bureau.
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swake

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 11, 2014, 10:12:52 PM

Have only known one casino employee - a nephew - and he was minimum wage.  Couldn't afford house.


Minimum wage for the tribes, at least around here, is higher than the federal minimum wage. For the Cherokee Nation it's $9.50 and for the Creeks I think it's $10.