Iraq Reverts

[Conan71]

Didn't E.F. Hutton go bankrupt?

[Townsend]

Didn't E.F. Hutton go bankrupt?

Not enough people listened

[heironymouspasparagus]

Not enough people listened

I listened... they were idiots!

Did just the opposite and cleaned up!!

[guido911]

The Pope weighs in (according to the media)...

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) — Pope Francis on Monday endorsed the use of force to stop Islamic militants from attacking religious minorities in Iraq but said the international community — and not just one country — should decide how to intervene.

Francis also said he and his advisers were considering whether he might go to northern Iraq himself to show solidarity with persecuted Christians. But he said he was holding off for now on a decision.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/pope-oks-protecting-iraq-minorities-wants-un-ok

[guido911]

[Gaspar]

Ok, the NYT posted this article right after the president's press conference at 12:45.
Obama, Outraged Over Beheading, Vows to Stay on Course
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/us/politics/james-foley-beheading-isis-video-authentic-obama.html?_r=0

The presidential travel log then reported: "POTUS, the president arrived at Vineyard Golf Club at 1:05 p.m., following statement on James Foley and ISIS.

This is the most accurate headline the NYT has posted in almost 20 years!

[Gaspar]

They changed the headline to "Obama, 'Appalled' by Beheading, Will Continue Airstrikes" after realizing the irony.

[Conan71]

They changed the headline to "Obama, 'Appalled' by Beheading, Will Continue Airstrikes" after realizing the irony.

Don't you know some intern or cub editor was laughing his or her arse off when they wrote the original headline?

[guido911]

I am very angry about this brutality. As I wrote earlier, I am looking for more than words. I am looking for obscene retribution of a magnitude that would demonstrate power in its rawest form to the world.

Not quite like this, though.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I am very angry about this brutality. As I wrote earlier, I am looking for more than words. I am looking for obscene retribution of a magnitude that would demonstrate power in its rawest form to the world.

Not quite like this, though.

Yes.  Quite like that.  And more.

They know we 'have' the power - the whole world knows we have the power.  They also know we do not have the will to use it in what would be the only effective manner.  The only thing that will actually stop this conflict is the elimination of the enemy.  Which no civilized nation has the will to pursue - in particular, I don't believe WE currently have the will to pursue a goal of extermination again.  While they, on the other hand, are pursuing that goal to the degree they are able - killing as many as possible, as brutally as possible as object lesson.  It does not matter what response we have - be it restraint or no restraint.  They are motivated by a religious belief that glorifies death for the cause, while we don't, to that degree.  This will continue, as it has for many years.


This link shows the Israeli/Palestinian situation as template of what has happened in the area in a slightly different venue.  The political will does not exist to do what Rwanda, Uganda, Congo, etc had happen.  And for all the disparity between casualties, they are no closer to resolution.  We will in all likelihood have similar results - except we will kill many times more of them than they will of us....we see those results in Iraq death tolls to date.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/casualtiestotal.html

[guido911]

Yes.  Quite like that.  And more.

How's this? 

[heironymouspasparagus]

How's this?  

Don't need all that extreme, 'cause what we've been doing has worked so well.....

But yeah, he is right.  Him and the goat he rode in on....



Better ideas anyone?  Since we blew every other chance we had before reaching this point, I'm betting somebody in DC would love to have some help that would actually work at this point!!

[Gaspar]

Don't you know some intern or cub editor was laughing his or her arse off when they wrote the original headline?

Holy Cow!
He's lost the NY Daily!
Yesterday it was Ezra Kline at MSNBC, now the NY Daily.
Making things worse, David Cameron canceled his vacation and returned to London yesterday.
"U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron cut short his summer vacation to return to London and chair urgent meetings on the threat posed by ISIS in Iraq and Syria, calling the video 'shocking and depraved.'"

[Conan71]

Holy Cow!
He's lost the NY Daily!
Yesterday it was Ezra Kline at MSNBC, now the NY Daily.
Making things worse, David Cameron canceled his vacation and returned to London yesterday.
"U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron cut short his summer vacation to return to London and chair urgent meetings on the threat posed by ISIS in Iraq and Syria, calling the video 'shocking and depraved.'"

[Gaspar]

It seems the president is now at odds with hid Secretary of Defense.  Obama says they are the "JV Team" and Hagel says they are 'beyond anything we've seen'
http://news.yahoo.com/hagel-islamic-state-beyond-anything-weve-seen-202140920.html