Iraq Reverts

[Conan71]

I wonder if Piers is in favor of using guns to take on ISIS?

I doubt he's thought it through yet. 

[Townsend]

rebound is my new favorite poster on TulsaNow.

Sorry Townsend. You had a good run.

We could use some more Rebound posts in politics.

[Gaspar]

Al Frankin has now written a strongly worded letter to AG Holder concerning the President's lack of strategy.  What the hell does he think Holder is going to do?

"I was troubled by the President's recent suggestion that the Administration has not yet developed a comprehensive strategy to address the growing threat of ISIL's activities in Syria," Franken wrote to Holder. "One American who went to high school in Minnesota has been confirmed to have been killed in Syria while fighting with ISIL, and others have traveled there to fight with ISIL as well. We must act diligently and responsibly to prevent Americans from taking up arms with ISIL, or from reentering if they do."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/al-franken-obama-isil-strategy-110557.html#ixzz3CH4Nij5w

[Gaspar]

. . .and now Joe Biden gives the only appropriate response so far from the administration.

"When people harm Americans we don't retreat, and we don't forget," he said. "They should know, we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice, because hell is where they will reside! Hell is where they will reside!"

Perhaps he is gearing up to exercise Section 4 of the 25th amendment?

[guido911]

Al Frankin has now written a strongly worded letter to AG Holder concerning the President's lack of strategy.  What the hell does he think Holder is going to do?

"I was troubled by the President's recent suggestion that the Administration has not yet developed a comprehensive strategy to address the growing threat of ISIL's activities in Syria," Franken wrote to Holder. "One American who went to high school in Minnesota has been confirmed to have been killed in Syria while fighting with ISIL, and others have traveled there to fight with ISIL as well. We must act diligently and responsibly to prevent Americans from taking up arms with ISIL, or from reentering if they do."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/al-franken-obama-isil-strategy-110557.html#ixzz3CH4Nij5w

Get more no-knock search warrants from the World Court, I mean, after we get a coalition of attorneys general together and on the same page. Franken is facing a potential tough reelection, so he wants to appear tough. He also wants to also treat the televising of chopping off of American heads as a criminal matter.

[Gaspar]

Get more no-knock search warrants from the World Court, I mean, after we get a coalition of attorneys general together and on the same page. Franken is facing a potential tough reelection, so he wants to appear tough. He also wants to also treat the televising of chopping off of American heads as a criminal matter.

I think he's good enough, and smart enough to win, and dogonit, people like him!

[DolfanBob]

Get more no-knock search warrants from the World Court, I mean, after we get a coalition of attorneys general together and on the same page. Franken is facing a potential tough reelection, so he wants to appear tough. He also wants to also treat the televising of chopping off of American heads as a criminal matter.

Does anyone really take "Stuart Smalley" seriously? But then again. Doggonit! people like him.

[Gaspar]

Does anyone really take "Stuart Smalley" seriously? But then again. Doggonit! people like him.

He still polls really strong, so apparently so.

[DolfanBob]

Real quick question. Since ISIS has come around. Has the Taliban went out of business?

[Gaspar]

Real quick question. Since ISIS has come around. Has the Taliban went out of business?

Talaban is regional (Afghanistan).  Taliban is more of a tribal islamic organization compared to ISIS which is more like a global corporation.  The Taliban are fundamentalists who believe in Shira law, but are not nearly as extremist or consumed with domination thorough creation of the caliphate as ISIS is.

Basically the Taliban is a Geo Metro, and ISIS is a much larger vehicle.

[Townsend]

Real quick question. Since ISIS has come around. Has the Taliban went out of business?

You should probably look elsewhere for reliable information on Isis v Taliban

[Gaspar]

You should probably look elsewhere for reliable information on Isis v Taliban

Oh. There you are.

[Townsend]

Oh. There you are.

Always around. 

Our national/international politics section is a mess.  It's not the best place to get reliable information.

I'm sure you're well aware, little car v big car guy.

[heironymouspasparagus]

ISIS really isn't that big....probably less than 10,000 total - and I suspect that is high.  They are an ongoing evolution of radical Islamists...like al Qaeda, etc.  More of the same - we are not looking at a 'whole new organization' - this is the ongoing of what we have been fighting for a long, long time.  Radicals from Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, especially Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the US and UK.  So, it is really pretty silly to try to 'parse' this into something that shouldn't have a response until they do something - they have been doing something.

Appropriate response - and I just bet that Obama doesn't have the co-jones to do it;

Mobilize the entire US military in the gulf/middle east.  Use every satellite, ground, drone, resource available to get the best location data possible on these forces across Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and anywhere else they are to be found.  Get everybody ready to fire whatever missile, JDAM, drone, cruise missile, artillery - anything and everything it takes.

Start at 8:45 am this coming Thursday.  Target each and every person involved in ISIS, al Qaeda, and whatever little bunch of stuff is in Pakistan in their northwest sector, be it a siege around a mountain, a city, or just a convoy of our stolen equipment running around in the desert.  Kill everything.  Spend any and all time required to destroy them.  Follow them, track them, let none get away.  We destroyed about 150,000 Iraqi soldiers in Desert Storm in 100 hours.  Surely we can kill a few thousand in a few weeks.  If not, why not??

And tell Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria if they don't get on board and show some real interest in helping any way they can, they might just be next.  It is WAY past time for all these so-called moderate Muslims who "don't believe" in what the radicals are doing to make a stand - either with the compassion and human decency as they claim, or not!

[Gaspar]

ISIS really isn't that big....probably less than 10,000 total - and I suspect that is high.  They are an ongoing evolution of radical Islamists...like al Qaeda, etc.  More of the same - we are not looking at a 'whole new organization' - this is the ongoing of what we have been fighting for a long, long time.  Radicals from Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, especially Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the US and UK.  So, it is really pretty silly to try to 'parse' this into something that shouldn't have a response until they do something - they have been doing something.

Appropriate response - and I just bet that Obama doesn't have the co-jones to do it;

Mobilize the entire US military in the gulf/middle east.  Use every satellite, ground, drone, resource available to get the best location data possible on these forces across Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and anywhere else they are to be found.  Get everybody ready to fire whatever missile, JDAM, drone, cruise missile, artillery - anything and everything it takes.

Start at 8:45 am this coming Thursday.  Target each and every person involved in ISIS, al Qaeda, and whatever little bunch of stuff is in Pakistan in their northwest sector, be it a siege around a mountain, a city, or just a convoy of our stolen equipment running around in the desert.  Kill everything.  Spend any and all time required to destroy them.  Follow them, track them, let none get away.  We destroyed about 150,000 Iraqi soldiers in Desert Storm in 100 hours.  Surely we can kill a few thousand in a few weeks.  If not, why not??

And tell Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria if they don't get on board and show some real interest in helping any way they can, they might just be next.  It is WAY past time for all these so-called moderate Muslims who "don't believe" in what the radicals are doing to make a stand - either with the compassion and human decency as they claim, or not!

Rather bad idea to minimize a threat for the sake of politics.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/isis-iraq-numbers_n_5659239.html
http://rt.com/news/183048-isis-grow-expand-jihadist/
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/islamic-state-50000-fighters-syria-2014819184258421392.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amb-marc-ginsberg/a-field-guide-to-the-isla_b_5733062.html

Your JV team is ready for the pros.