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[heironymouspasparagus]

Not an outright lie, just a bit fuzzy. https://www.google.com/search?q=visa+gas+pump+limit
Visa/Mastercard will only reimburse so much in case of a disputed charge or other fraud.  From this search, the popular answer is 75$, but there are a couple of sources that say $125, so QT may be playing it safe.

As far as this bit Do you even know it was actually QT that declined the charges?  Declining after 4 moderate-to-high transactions at a single place reeks of fraud protection that a bank would do.  "See the cashier" is just a super-generic message sent by the pump, and the person that you were talking to either couldn't, or didn't bother checking the error logs provided.  You can probably call your bank to see if they have access to those logs.

I have two main cards - neither of which has flinched at a wide variety of gas stations, truck stops, etc for charges up to as much as $190 per fill, followed by 50 to 100 charges at same time - while filling up to one medium size truck and two cars at the same time on the pumps at the single station.  My cards don't put those kind of limits on this type of purchase.  If something looks weird to them (and my whole financial environment looks weird), then they have called me at the point of sale a couple of times!  I think that was pretty cool.  Have been blocked, like when I am charging something in CA in the morning, and then charging again 5 hours later in Atlanta, and then late evening in Minneapolis.....call and it is cleared immediately.

This particular case was filling 3 cars in northeast OK spaced over about a 10 hour period (Owasso, Tulsa, Tulsa).  Morning about 9.  Afternoon at 2 pm, and evening at 7:30 pm.  I have talked to the banks (different for different cards) and they say no problem-o.  For decades.  

I bought an iPad for company use about 6 months ago, and they would not accept the charge at about $700 until I talked to them on the phone.  But have accepted $2,000+ hotel bills with no questions asked.  Go figure....

[Conan71]

A common scam for people to do with stolen credit cards is to offer to buy other's gas and only charge the other motorists a percent of the actual charge in cash.  It's happened a couple of times to my company with former employees on company fuel cards.  We have better safeguards in place now.

After saintnicster mentioned the fraud aspect, this came to mind immediately.

[nathanm]

QT's VISA policy added about 35 minutes to what should have been a 5 minute adventure.  And the other thing I missed on the first note is that they stop the pumps at $100.00!!  What a pain in the bu$$ that is - I always need more than that - most of the time!!

Unlike most other stations, they only authorize a dollar to verify the card when you use it at the pump. Others do $75 or $100 or $150 or whatever their transaction limit is, so they aren't running the risk of the charge failing to settle for the full amount. Doesn't really matter to me, but it can matter a lot to folks who are using a debit card and have one of the many customer unfriendly banks who will charge an overdraft fee for an authorization that takes the account negative.

At many stations, you can take the card inside and avoid the pay-at-the-pump transaction limit.

[heironymouspasparagus]

A common scam for people to do with stolen credit cards is to offer to buy other's gas and only charge the other motorists a percent of the actual charge in cash.  It's happened a couple of times to my company with former employees on company fuel cards.  We have better safeguards in place now.

After saintnicster mentioned the fraud aspect, this came to mind immediately.

I saw that regularly when I was driving over the road - someone would fill your tank with company card, and all you had to do was give him half price in cash.  Not a stolen card - company fuel card.  If he was especially desperate you could get even cheaper than half price.  If he was smart, he could drag that out for a long time - make sure that every once in a while, you play it straight by filling the truck and not scamming for that tank.  Then, drive hard so the mileage is very low - say 4 mpg.  Then the next tank, the expectation is that gonna use fuel at 4 mpg rate, but drive softly and get 6 or 7.  Almost half a fill is available.  Half of 300 gallons (2 tanks at 150 gal each) at $4 a gallon can be a pretty good chunk of change.....$500 or 600 cash in pocket, and the company really doesn't know for a long, long time.

And you could always buy brand new, latest release DVD/BlueRay movies - often before available in stores....'cause the trucks taking it to the stores were the retail outlet.

And it was always exciting to go pull someones 5th wheel handle, just to see if they really did their inspection properly when getting back in truck - if not, the trailer just slides off the back when the driver moves forward and lands on the ground...!!   Ahhhh,....the good times from the good ole days!!

[heironymouspasparagus]

Unlike most other stations, they only authorize a dollar to verify the card when you use it at the pump. Others do $75 or $100 or $150 or whatever their transaction limit is, so they aren't running the risk of the charge failing to settle for the full amount. Doesn't really matter to me, but it can matter a lot to folks who are using a debit card and have one of the many customer unfriendly banks who will charge an overdraft fee for an authorization that takes the account negative.

At many stations, you can take the card inside and avoid the pay-at-the-pump transaction limit.

And another thing about QT...!!  The water in the windshield washer buckets is just water!!  Just filled up at Love's a while ago (over $100) and was reminded of that neat little touch that they don't do!!  I can actually get my windows clean at Love's!  Can't do that at QT!!  And yeah, it's raining here, too (OKC area tonight) but always clean the windows at every stop to get ahead of the bugs a little bit.

[patric]

And another thing about QT...!!  The water in the windshield washer buckets is just water!!

Since you are on a roll, next time they claim they need an outrageous amount of "security lighting" to ward off evil, remind them of how many of those "well-lit" stores had armed robberies just in Tulsa this week.  I think it's around 4 or 5...

[AquaMan]

Need more lights shining on the beer coolers.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Need more lights shining on the beer coolers.

Mmmmmmm....bbbeeeeeeerrrrrrr!!

[RecycleMichael]

 But have accepted $2,000+ hotel bills with no questions asked.

You must watch a lot of porn.

[heironymouspasparagus]

You must watch a lot of porn.

Expensive hotels at times.  Downtown Chicago has some...another reason to hate Chicago!!

Even a quiet little backwater like Anaheim, CA has some pricey hotels...last time I was there, it was $260 a night down the street from the convention center!!  I think it was a Hyatt - got a free night or two from that one!!  Crazy!

[patric]

From KRMG:

TULSA - More zoning changes have begun in Tulsa's Pearl District.

The planning commission approved a request from the VFW, Indian Health Care Resource Center and American Legion to revert to an older zoning code.
Current regulations govern a building's look, rather than use.
The groups say changes to the code three years ago impeded on their property rights.
Proponents of the current code say a change hurts the district's long-term revitalization.
The request now goes before city council.

[Townsend]

From KRMG:

TULSA - More zoning changes have begun in Tulsa's Pearl District.

The planning commission approved a request from the VFW, Indian Health Care Resource Center and American Legion to revert to an older zoning code.
Current regulations govern a building's look, rather than use.
The groups say changes to the code three years ago impeded on their property rights.
Proponents of the current code say a change hurts the district's long-term revitalization.
The request now goes before city council.

Yeah,  that's about right.

[TheArtist]

So minimum parking requirements don't impede on your property rights? There are many buildings that sit empty (as one developer told me the other day they are essentially "condemned" by the city via the zoning laws, and businesses that can't expand because they can't get enough parking and NO the Form Based Codes are not implemented for I was required to put in how many parking spaces onto the plans I submitted to the city and they didn't act like they knew anything about any "Form Based Codes".  The first lady I spoke to gave me a blank stare when I mentioned them and had no clue. They were still pushing for and advising people to conform to the old codes.

Here is the property we were trying to go into.

1513 E 11th

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.147867,-95.971461,3a,75y,356.4h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1se7Q5X1yyc1mcKLILbPBeUw!2e0

And then this from Roger Larkey the Commercial Building Plans Examiner from the Commercial Architectural Plan Review


OUR REVIEW HAS IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING CODE OMISSIONS OR DEFICIENCIES IN THE PROJECT APPLICATION FORMS, DRAWINGS, AND/OR SPECIFICATIONS.  THE DOCUMENTS SHALL BE REVISED TO COMPLY WITH THE REFERENCED CODE SECTIONS.  
2.   107.2.5 Site plan    
Review Comment:   Submit a site plan to show the parking and accessible route for this building.

5.   1106.6 Location. Accessible parking spaces shall be located on the shortest accessible route of travel from adjacent parking to an accessible building entrance. In parking facilities that do not serve a particular building, accessible parking spaces shall be located on the shortest route to an accessible pedestrian entrance to the parking facility. Where buildings have multiple accessible entrances with adjacent parking, accessible parking spaces shall be dispersed and located near the accessible entrances.                    Review Comment:  No accessible parking spaces/route of travel is identified on the submitted plans.  See Review Comment # 2 above for corrective action to take.

We were within the supposed Form Based Codes area.  So if they were in place and there are no parking requirements, what business is it of theirs to have us spend time and money, measuring things out, drawing up new plans, paying to resubmit the plans, etc. to show parking?  Guess it's not their time and money so they don't care if you have to spend more of your time and money to do it?  But apparently it's needed or why would they require it?

[heironymouspasparagus]

We were within the supposed Form Based Codes area.  So if they were in place and there are no parking requirements, what business is it of theirs to have us spend time and money, measuring things out, drawing up new plans, paying to resubmit the plans, etc. to show parking?  Guess it's not their time and money so they don't care if you have to spend more of your time and money to do it?  But apparently it's needed or why would they require it?

Ahhhhh...the joys of interaction with bureaucratic functionaries.....


I ran into something with the Oklahoma Tax Commission while trying to set up a small manufacturing facility.  There is supposed to be a sales tax exemption allowed for certain items used in the manufacturing process - component parts.  This is mfg "equivalent" to a sales tax permit for retail sales.

I had a facility rented, furnished, and operating.  Had built one prototype unit.  Was in process of doing manufacturing at the time I called the OTC and requested inspection for the manufacturing permit.  They didn't even bother to come do the inspection they are required by law to do...go figure on that, huh?  Anyway, they just said no, you aren't doing manufacturing...

Idiots!  (Not to mention the things used to wipe a babies backside when he messes his diaper!!)

[Conan71]

Ahhhhh...the joys of interaction with bureaucratic functionaries.....


I ran into something with the Oklahoma Tax Commission while trying to set up a small manufacturing facility.  There is supposed to be a sales tax exemption allowed for certain items used in the manufacturing process - component parts.  This is mfg "equivalent" to a sales tax permit for retail sales.

I had a facility rented, furnished, and operating.  Had built one prototype unit.  Was in process of doing manufacturing at the time I called the OTC and requested inspection for the manufacturing permit.  They didn't even bother to come do the inspection they are required by law to do...go figure on that, huh?  Anyway, they just said no, you aren't doing manufacturing...

Idiots!  (Not to mention the things used to wipe a babies backside when he messes his diaper!!)

Applying for corporate welfare?  Tsk tsk.