Remote Controlled Multicopters

[BKDotCom]

Did you even watch the piece?

1.  Wasn't bourbon, it was scotch.
2.  The drone was being used by the security guard to check for people parking illegally; he used it in this instance to find thieves.


People have misconceptions about drones (which they really shouldn't be called).  It's not like they used it to identify them explicitly.  If you watched the piece, it said the owner/security guard used it to direct police to where these guys were so they could apprehend them.

And yes, I get a little touchy about this because I own two of them (one I built and one I bought).

No, I didn't watch this piece!  I watched a difference pice that was on KOTV last night.
Their story:  A hobbyist quad-coper operator was downtown / was alerted of the burglary.
I don't know why your touchy on bourbon vs scotch or hobbyist vs security guard.   I didn't even use the stupid term "drone"

[Hoss]

At that location?  Surrounded by nice sound bouncing buildings?

I agree with your assessment of that.  However, if these guys were hammered they likely ignored or didn't hear it in the auditory fog.  Plus, what could they do?  If it's high enough they better have a Major League arm to do anything about it.

[BKDotCom]

Plus, what could they do?

Attempt to evade or approach operator menacingly.

[Vashta Nerada]

No, I didn't watch this piece!  I watched a difference pice that was on KOTV last night.
Their story:  A hobbyist quad-coper operator was downtown / was alerted of the burglary.
I don't know why your touchy on bourbon vs scotch or hobbyist vs security guard.   I didn't even use the stupid term "drone"

The story seems less about UAVs and more about how much TV crime reporting is inaccurate or just made up.


David Bell flies his drone downtown often, mainly just to get beauty shots.
"Pretty amazing little thing," Bell said. Before today, he's never needed to chase down burglars.
An eyewitness saw the break-in happening. That eyewitness was talking to a drone pilot outside The Vault, where the break-in happened, so when the suspects took off, the drone did too.
http://www.newson6.com/story/33809652/drone-helps-chase-down-suspects-in-early-morning-robbery

Vs.

A man in a nearby parking lot said he saw the break-in and told a security guard.
The security guard then used a drone to follow the two suspects.
The security guard told FOX23 he usually uses the drone to catch people illegally parking in the lot.
http://www.fox23.com/news/man-uses-drone-to-follow-suspects-after-downtown-tulsa-break-in/471128851

[Hoss]

Attempt to evade or approach operator menacingly.

A good vehicle with decent video transmission could have the operator hiding well away.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

At that location?  Surrounded by nice sound bouncing buildings?

I was thinking more with the background noise and their not right state of mind, and thinking more about the break in and getting away, they would not hear it unless it was on top of them.

[patric]

...and now the British tabloid version:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3984734/amp/Security-guard-uses-drone-two-men-suspected-restaurant-robbery.html

We is famous.

[patric]

http://tribunist.com/news/oklahoma-man-shoots-down-construction-companys-legal-drone-video/

[dbacksfan 2.0]

http://tribunist.com/news/oklahoma-man-shoots-down-construction-companys-legal-drone-video/

Always carry your permit.........

[saintnicster]

Drone/UAV Registration ruled illegal by a Federal Court of Appeals

Decision - http://www.wolfenstock.com/TaylorvFAA/TaylorFAAOpinion.pdf
Response - https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=21674


color commentary http://www.tested.com/tech/613383-no-more-drone-registration-hobbyists/

[Hoss]

Drone/UAV Registration ruled illegal by a Federal Court of Appeals

Decision - http://www.wolfenstock.com/TaylorvFAA/TaylorFAAOpinion.pdf
Response - https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=21674


color commentary http://www.tested.com/tech/613383-no-more-drone-registration-hobbyists/

Which doesn't really matter now, because the government has the data.

It does mean, however, that if anyone asks for my FAA ID for my rig, I'll explicitly say "what ID?".

[patric]

Which doesn't really matter now, because the government has the data.

...and everyone else.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2015/12/18/faa-finally-admits-names-and-home-addresses-in-drone-registry-will-be-publicly-available/#4e761aec5201

It does mean, however, that if anyone asks for my FAA ID for my rig, I'll explicitly say "what ID?".

When I studied for the FAA Part 107 I was amazed at how little changed from my high school days taking a Private Pilot course.
They were antiquated then and they are now, but given that, they are still the better choice to govern the air than leaving it to every local LEO.

I have come to agree that some form of accountability should be in place for people to put aircraft in the air, but the FAA execution is sloppy and bureaucratic, and prone to misinformation:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2015/12/21/attention-model-aircraft-flyers-faa-issues-misleading-registration-guidance-to-law-enforcement

A few months ago the police associations asked Congress to require UAVs to transmit ID numbers in flight so police could identify them.  The particulars of the request seemed to focus not so much on a way to control aircraft as a way to control cameras.


Now there is this:

Trump wants to be able track and destroy drones flying over the U.S.
https://www.recode.net/2017/5/24/15685802/donald-trump-white-house-proposal-track-hack-seize-destroy-drone-flying

[patric]

http://atwonline.com/regulation/industry-condemns-video-drone-close-encounter-frontier-aircraft

Quite possibly a fake, as the aircraft doesnt appear to be configured for landing and the video quality is unusually poor given the state of the art in video.  If it is real though, I nominate the operator for chemical castration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqbPf-mEf9Q

[patric]

One of our biggest arms customers firing on "a small remote-controlled toy airplane that came into restricted airspace and was immediately shot down."

https://youtu.be/EyuSws9XkUU

[patric]

"There was no crime" but you were still flying a drone so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L9kRUZx9VU