Tulsa County Sheriff shooting of Eric Harris

[Conan71]

Well they do seem rather adamant everyone gets a picture taken.

How much do copies of the souvenir shots cost?  I hope they aren't as high as a Carnival Cruise welcome pic.

[patric]

How much do copies of the souvenir shots cost?  I hope they aren't as high as a Carnival Cruise welcome pic.

Better not be allergic to latex. 

[Vashta Nerada]

-Brewster sounded a bit unhinged.  Love the part where he's complaining about poor jail conditions, yet he's defended the TCSD against allegations like this before. 

As screwed up as Moss Jail might be, it s still not Chicago:

"We know somebody who can get your fingerprints," the lawsuit alleged one of the officers told King.
Officer Evans then pressed his fist into King's face, threatening to push her nose into her brain, the suit alleged.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-glenn-evans-discipline-met-20160526-story.html

[Townsend]

As screwed up as Moss Jail might be, it s still not Chicago:

"We know somebody who can get your fingerprints," the lawsuit alleged one of the officers told King.
Officer Evans then pressed his fist into King's face, threatening to push her nose into her brain, the suit alleged.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-glenn-evans-discipline-met-20160526-story.html

Well...Okay...Did Eric Harris or Bates do some time in Chicago?

[cannon_fodder]

In case anyone missed it: Bates was sentenced to the jury recommended 4 years after an hours long sentencing hearing.

There will be an appeal, of course, but I haven't heard of anything that sounds like significant enough error to overturn the jury conviction or the sentence.

[Hoss]

In case anyone missed it: Bates was sentenced to the jury recommended 4 years after an hours long sentencing hearing.

There will be an appeal, of course, but I haven't heard of anything that sounds like significant enough error to overturn the jury conviction or the sentence.

Then of course his wife or daughter or whomever it was tried placing the blame of 'he'll die in jail' on the media.  Real class act there.

Harris was obviously no saint but whatever.

[Conan71]

Then of course his wife or daughter or whomever it was tried placing the blame of 'he'll die in jail' on the media.  Real class act there.

Harris was obviously no saint but whatever.

You want to grab the wife and say: "He's going to die in jail because he was too addled to know if he had a taser or gun in his hand and someone else died as a result."  It's not like it was treated as first degree murder and he got an LWOP or death sentence.

So, his doctor, attorney, and family don't want him to spend time in jail because of severe arthritis and a heart condition.  Why those conditions never a consideration when he was going out on drug and weapon stings?

Brewster has indicated his appeal will be predicated on other 2nd degree manslaughter convictions he's researched not ending up with incarceration.  This is nothing but pure hubris.  I'm sure Brewster convinced Bates that he could dirty up the vic enough there would not be a conviction and if it were it would be a suspended sentence.  They were stupid not to seek a plea deal, Bates would lose the ability to carry a firearm or sell insurance ever again, but he might not have ended up in prison for four years and could come and go to the Bahamas as he pleased. 

[patric]

You want to grab the wife and say: "He's going to die in jail because he was too addled to know if he had a taser or gun in his hand and someone else died as a result."  It's not like it was treated as first degree murder and he got an LWOP or death sentence.

So, his doctor, attorney, and family don't want him to spend time in jail because of severe arthritis and a heart condition.  Why those conditions never a consideration when he was going out on drug and weapon stings?

Brewster has indicated his appeal will be predicated on other 2nd degree manslaughter convictions he's researched not ending up with incarceration.  This is nothing but pure hubris.  I'm sure Brewster convinced Bates that he could dirty up the vic enough there would not be a conviction and if it were it would be a suspended sentence.  They were stupid not to seek a plea deal, Bates would lose the ability to carry a firearm or sell insurance ever again, but he might not have ended up in prison for four years and could come and go to the Bahamas as he pleased. 

How many thousands of people before Bates wished they had a platform to expose that corrupt hellhole?

[Hoss]

You want to grab the wife and say: "He's going to die in jail because he was too addled to know if he had a taser or gun in his hand and someone else died as a result."  It's not like it was treated as first degree murder and he got an LWOP or death sentence.

So, his doctor, attorney, and family don't want him to spend time in jail because of severe arthritis and a heart condition.  Why those conditions never a consideration when he was going out on drug and weapon stings?

Brewster has indicated his appeal will be predicated on other 2nd degree manslaughter convictions he's researched not ending up with incarceration.  This is nothing but pure hubris.  I'm sure Brewster convinced Bates that he could dirty up the vic enough there would not be a conviction and if it were it would be a suspended sentence.  They were stupid not to seek a plea deal, Bates would lose the ability to carry a firearm or sell insurance ever again, but he might not have ended up in prison for four years and could come and go to the Bahamas as he pleased. 

Here's the video.  I was gobsmacked when I heard her say this.

https://twitter.com/mikesimonsphoto/status/738013271886811136

[Ed W]

Does Bates have to serve a third of his sentence before he's eligible for parole? He could be out in 16 months, if so.

[Conan71]

Does Bates have to serve a third of his sentence before he's eligible for parole? He could be out in 16 months, if so.

I saw somewhere this morning that in all likelihood, he won't do a full four years pending an ODOC review.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

I saw somewhere this morning that in all likelihood, he won't do a full four years pending an ODOC review.

I predict he'll spend 18 months tops, at a place like Conner in Hominy.

[patric]

I predict he'll spend 18 months tops, at a place like Conner in Hominy.

More likely he will be out of state so he wont run into any of his past Taserings.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

More likely he will be out of state so he wont run into any of his past Taserings.

Where ever he goes he won't see general population, he'll wind up in a segregated section.

[patric]

You want to grab the wife and say: "He's going to die in jail because he was too addled to know if he had a taser or gun in his hand and someone else died as a result."

How much difference is there between "I thought it was my Taser" and "I thought my Taser wouldnt kill" ?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/man-dies-after-tulsa-police-officer-pepper-sprays-shocks-him/article_d8d5b3f7-a624-573c-8c79-c20bc546dc66.html