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Started by TulsaGoldenHurriCAN, June 26, 2015, 09:05:58 AM

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DowntownDan

My vote would be for the 6th and Frankfort area for the soccer stadium.  Isn't that near the site that was being considered for Top Golf?  I would much prefer a stadium there.  Hopefully it would come with a parking garage to benefit the entire East Village.  That area is about to take off and a soccer stadium would speed it up significantly.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on July 30, 2015, 12:34:18 PM
More Vision Pitches: Soccer Stadium, Trail Connections, Bike Sharing

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/more-vision-pitches-soccer-stadium-trail-connections-bike-sharing


Four hours?  Glad I postponed TUWC's presentation to August 11.  Now watch, that will run six hours  ;D
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

davideinstein

The soccer stadium needs to be right at 6th and Frankfurt. I like the BAM model, but the seating capacity is too low or else you could just combine the idea. Roughnecks are required by 2020 to have a soccer stadium so it'll happen and that needs to be in the 8k-12k range. Blake had some good input on other funding options in addition to the tax extension. I also think you can merge a lot of the transportation plans into the stadium so it's blending in with all of the other plans Tulsa has. The Peoria BRT has a stop on 6th at Peoria and Boston so you could have an events stop at Frankfurt. It's not just a stadium people want so they can sit and cheer, there is a pretty passionate belief that incorporating bike lanes, outdoor activities, etc. need to be a part of it as well.

natedog784

How about putting it completely on existing surface lots instead of demolishing cool, old buildings that are part of the Nordam site.

SXSW

Quote from: natedog784 on August 01, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
How about putting it completely on existing surface lots instead of demolishing cool, old buildings that are part of the Nordam site.

I agree, unless you could fit it all along Frankfurt between 4th and 6th so that just the old fire station and the Nordam buildings would be torn down and the adjacent buildings along 4th would be preserved as part of the stadium complex.  I love the building on 4th with the rounded brick side and glass block.  

Parking would be in a joint-use garage serving the stadium and east downtown on the surface lot at 4th/5th & Elgin.  One of the main entrances could be where 5th dead ends at Frankfurt similar to Brady at ONEOK Field as well as entrances along 4th and 6th.  Keep the architecture consistent with the surrounding 1 and 2 story brick buildings with the field depressed below grade.
 

Conan71

Quote from: SXSW on August 02, 2015, 04:36:46 PM
I agree, unless you could fit it all along Frankfurt between 4th and 6th so that just the old fire station and the Nordam buildings would be torn down and the adjacent buildings along 4th would be preserved as part of the stadium complex.  I love the building on 4th with the rounded brick side and glass block.  

Parking would be in a joint-use garage serving the stadium and east downtown on the surface lot at 4th/5th & Elgin.  One of the main entrances could be where 5th dead ends at Frankfurt similar to Brady at ONEOK Field as well as entrances along 4th and 6th.  Keep the architecture consistent with the surrounding 1 and 2 story brick buildings with the field depressed below grade.

For certain, is their structured parking in this concept?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

TheArtist

Here is the Facebook Page for the Smithsonian Affiliated, National Art Deco Museum
effort we are working on. Please "Like" Us!

https://www.facebook.com/NationalArtDecoMuseum


Video of our National Art Deco Museum presentation at the last Vision 2025 City Hall meeting.  Completely unflattering camera angle lol, but what can ya do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWjHCrBGzM



Our Vision for the Museum.  The first slide show has the best amount of info versus the video.

http://tulsaartdecomuseum.com/blog/vision/
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Tulsasaurus Rex

Just in case you all didn't know, here are 67 five to ten minute videos of the proposals being pitched to city council.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxLVRqQO1KixmP0Xs8b0jlg/videos


And it looks like a few of them never made presented at city hall, so they never made it on to youtube. The full list can be found here:

https://www.cityoftulsa.org/our-city/vision/submitted-proposals.aspx

TulsaGoldenHurriCAN

Quote from: TheArtist on August 22, 2015, 06:08:23 PM
Here is the Facebook Page for the Smithsonian Affiliated, National Art Deco Museum
effort we are working on. Please "Like" Us!

https://www.facebook.com/NationalArtDecoMuseum

Video of our National Art Deco Museum presentation at the last Vision 2025 City Hall meeting.  Completely unflattering camera angle lol, but what can ya do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWjHCrBGzM

Our Vision for the Museum.  The first slide show has the best amount of info versus the video.

http://tulsaartdecomuseum.com/blog/vision/

That is awesome! I really hope a Deco museum can be made. I would like that much better than more dams. It really would enrich a great historical aspect of Tulsa and your proposal is something which could spurn tourism and private businesses along with creating an interactive way to educate about Tulsa.

TheArtist

Quote from: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on September 01, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
That is awesome! I really hope a Deco museum can be made. I would like that much better than more dams. It really would enrich a great historical aspect of Tulsa and your proposal is something which could spurn tourism and private businesses along with creating an interactive way to educate about Tulsa.

Thank You!

You know what can really help?  Contact your counselor and let them know you like the idea.  
Below is a handy dandy link to a map you can use to find out who your city counselor is. You can send them an e-mail or an IM on their Facebook page.

Step 1.  Tulsa City Council Member District Finder (Just click on the map where you live)
http://www.tulsacouncil.org/dis.../district-finder-2014.aspx

Step 2. And here are the City Counselors Facebook pages.

https://www.facebook.com/jack.henderson.3956 District 1 Jack Henderson

https://www.facebook.com/jeannie.richardsoncue District 2 Jeannie Cue

dist3@tulsacouncil.org (no known Facebook page) District 3 David Patrick

https://www.facebook.com/a.blake.ewing District 4 Blake Ewing

https://www.facebook.com/karen.alexandergilbert District 5 Karen Gilbert

https://www.facebook.com/connie.palmerdodson District 6 Connie Dodson

https://www.facebook.com/anna.america.3 District 7 Anna America

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Phil-Lakin-for-Tulsa-City-Council-District-8/127614749121 District 8 Phil Lakin, Jr

https://www.facebook.com/gtbynum District 9 G.T. Bynum


Thanks so much for any help.  I really think we can, with the funds we have requested, have a really big impact per the buck long term for Tulsa.  One of the things we are looking at is how to build a large space with less funds than other museums often do.  We have determined that something built in the manner of a "Big Box" store will do that.  It's one of the least expensive types of construction around.  I thought of that when I walked into the Home Depot downtown and was looking at that huge expanse and high ceilings and thought "WOW what we could do in a space like this!" even a quarter of that floor space to start with would be incredible.  We could create the interior streetscapes idea and on the exterior create different Art Deco Facades that fit right into the rest of downtown.  A lot of it would be illusions and Disney type Magic to create a realistic look on a budget, which is what people have flown me around the world to create, including the work I and my team did at Disney, so why not do some of that here?  Again, I want to get as much bang for the buck as we can. What we could do would truly be a national draw. If we get the Vision funding, I have no doubt lots more great things will come our way.

Next week one of my friends at the AIA is having me meet and make a presentation to a Young Architects group.  They are considering helping us out with our designs and plans.  Possibly even creating a charrette for us.  Fingers crossed, will let you know what happens.

Also we are beginning to contact the different Art Deco Societies around the country, working on ideas and feeling them out on possibly having them create displays for our museum to represent their cities and states Art Deco treasures.  Just tentatively for now until we see if we can actually get on the ballot.  

There is so much we could do with this. Btw, for this falls Tulsa Art Deco Museum Internship program we already have 12 high school and college level interns lined up!


Contact your counselor via e-mail or even jut on Facebook!  It's easy and I think it will really help us out.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

TulsaGoldenHurriCAN

Quote from: TheArtist on September 01, 2015, 08:16:13 PM
Thank You!

You know what can really help?  Contact your counselor and let them know you like the idea.  
Below is a handy dandy link to a map you can use to find out who your city counselor is. You can send them an e-mail or an IM on their Facebook page.

Step 1.  Tulsa City Council Member District Finder (Just click on the map where you live)
http://www.tulsacouncil.org/dis.../district-finder-2014.aspx

Step 2. And here are the City Counselors Facebook pages.

https://www.facebook.com/jack.henderson.3956 District 1 Jack Henderson

https://www.facebook.com/jeannie.richardsoncue District 2 Jeannie Cue

dist3@tulsacouncil.org (no known Facebook page) District 3 David Patrick

https://www.facebook.com/a.blake.ewing District 4 Blake Ewing

https://www.facebook.com/karen.alexandergilbert District 5 Karen Gilbert

https://www.facebook.com/connie.palmerdodson District 6 Connie Dodson

https://www.facebook.com/anna.america.3 District 7 Anna America

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Phil-Lakin-for-Tulsa-City-Council-District-8/127614749121 District 8 Phil Lakin, Jr

https://www.facebook.com/gtbynum District 9 G.T. Bynum


Thanks so much for any help.  I really think we can, with the funds we have requested, have a really big impact per the buck long term for Tulsa.  One of the things we are looking at is how to build a large space with less funds than other museums often do.  We have determined that something built in the manner of a "Big Box" store will do that.  It's one of the least expensive types of construction around.  I thought of that when I walked into the Home Depot downtown and was looking at that huge expanse and high ceilings and thought "WOW what we could do in a space like this!" even a quarter of that floor space to start with would be incredible.  We could create the interior streetscapes idea and on the exterior create different Art Deco Facades that fit right into the rest of downtown.  A lot of it would be illusions and Disney type Magic to create a realistic look on a budget, which is what people have flown me around the world to create, including the work I and my team did at Disney, so why not do some of that here?  Again, I want to get as much bang for the buck as we can. What we could do would truly be a national draw. If we get the Vision funding, I have no doubt lots more great things will come our way.

Next week one of my friends at the AIA is having me meet and make a presentation to a Young Architects group.  They are considering helping us out with our designs and plans.  Possibly even creating a charrette for us.  Fingers crossed, will let you know what happens.

Also we are beginning to contact the different Art Deco Societies around the country, working on ideas and feeling them out on possibly having them create displays for our museum to represent their cities and states Art Deco treasures.  Just tentatively for now until we see if we can actually get on the ballot.  

There is so much we could do with this. Btw, for this falls Tulsa Art Deco Museum Internship program we already have 12 high school and college level interns lined up!


Contact your counselor via e-mail or even jut on Facebook!  It's easy and I think it will really help us out.

Those sound like great ideas! I will contact my city counselor.

I've been to Chicago, Miami, NYC and LA and really enjoyed finding the Art Deco there (even did a self-guided Art Deco tour in LA). Having displays for some of those cities sounds really neat. That is great you design that kind of art! That would be neat to have interior and exterior "streets" as your presentation mentioned. That would be really neat if the architects can help get schematics of interior/exterior plans to help as a visual aid.

TheArtist

Well rumor has it our odds for getting the National Art Deco Museum project on the next Vision 2025 initiative may not be that good.  Today and on the 17th the City Counselors will be debating which projects they want to support having on the ballot.  Here is a letter I sent as a last ditch plea.  I know it perhaps sounds a bit tough and harsh, but I figured I had to give it one last go.  We have been making a lot of progress lately, just perhaps not enough, quick enough.  Shame to let something that I believe so such potential go down because of "timing". 



"Tulsa's Art Deco heritage is one of the few positive things that Tulsa is known for around the Nation and World.  But this great existing city asset has received virtually ZERO financial support from the city.  Yet, this asset has constantly been used by the city to promote itself.  Art Deco is an existing asset, a great positive name recognition asset, an existing Tourism asset, that has gotten virtually NO funding support from the city. I think most people, especially visitors, when they realize this find it shocking and absurd.
    Gilcrease, the PAC, none of those entities will ever have as much name recognition around the nation and world as Art Deco already does for Tulsa. Imagine how much more Tourism, name recognition, and promotional potential our city could have by adding the National Art Deco Museum.  Sure, an entity like Gilcrease has a large "asset value", per the city, but it does not have nearly the same name recognition "asset value" that Art Deco has for the city.  It does not have nearly the Tourism potential, and thus couldn't  bring in nearly the amount of Tourism dollars.  Art Deco is a valuable city asset.  Gilcrease and the PAC have received huge amounts of financial support via the city compared to what Art Deco (a comparable, if not greater potential Tourism asset) have already received.  Now both of those entities are asking for MUCH greater amounts than Art Deco or the potential National Art Deco Museum is asking for. 
     If we don't support this existing asset and museum effort now, when will we?  I, William A. Franklin the founder of the Tulsa Art Deco Museum, am willing to put the Tulsa Art Deco Museum, and now the National Art Deco Museum, as my life's effort.  If I don't push and spearhead this effort, who will? Will you? Are you going to do the hard work and put in the commitment to do this?  I am gathering more and more people to be with me, but again if I was apparently the only one willing to step up and begin this effort, push for this effort, to make this my life's goal to achieve... If I don't do this, who will? And when? How long is the city and its leadership going to continue putting ever more money into things with lesser tourism potential while something with greater Tourism potential, that the city uses all the time to promote itself, begs for a much smaller share and is ignored? Can you look me in the eye, can you look the people of Tulsa in the eye, and honestly swear that you believe Gilcrease has more Tourism potential than Art Deco or the National Art Deco museum has for our city?
  This next Vision 2025 package is the city's chance to Finally support this existing city asset by doing something great, for a comparatively small amount, by bringing a National Art Deco Museum to Tulsa.  I am no spring chicken, I may not be around to fight for this the next time.  Are you going to take on the task to do it?  If not you, and If not me and my supporters, then who?  If not now, after all this time, when?  Will you say "Yes" or will you say "No"?    Please support us."   
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

AquaMan

onward...through the fog

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: TheArtist on September 10, 2015, 07:31:46 AM

Well rumor has it our odds for getting the National Art Deco Museum project on the next Vision 2025 initiative may not be that good.  Today and on the 17th the City Counselors will be debating which projects they want to support having on the ballot.  Here is a letter I sent as a last ditch plea.  I know it perhaps sounds a bit tough and harsh, but I figured I had to give it one last go.  We have been making a lot of progress lately, just perhaps not enough, quick enough.  Shame to let something that I believe so such potential go down because of "timing". 



The biggest obstacle you face is you are not the charismatic leader of a cult mega-church.  If you could just do the "prosperity gospel" pitch and get thousands to come watch you on TV a dozen times a week... Then all those parishioners would tithe and would have already broken ground.

<Insert Sad Face Here>




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