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Started by Breadburner, June 27, 2015, 09:42:01 PM

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DTowner

Quote from: hello on January 13, 2016, 04:25:46 PM
Beggars can't be choosers but I'm not too excited for Petty's in the Brady. I would like a more reasonably priced grocery store.   :-\

An urban store will not be as cheap (or as big) as non-urban stores.

SXSW

Quote from: hello on January 13, 2016, 04:25:46 PM
Beggars can't be choosers but I'm not too excited for Petty's in the Brady. I would like a more reasonably priced grocery store.   :-\

Is this a possibility?  I hope Petty's lands somewhere else in Tulsa.
 

patric

Quote from: Conan71 on January 13, 2016, 01:38:25 PM
If I remember the story correctly, there was a *gasp* bowling alley in that area of Utica Square until 1964 or thereabouts.

and a headshop.  The Et Cetera House had stairs going down to the basement shop lined with black-light posters and strobe lights.

It was groovy.  Mom used to take me there.  ;D
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Breadburner

Quote from: Conan71 on January 13, 2016, 01:38:25 PM
If I remember the story correctly, there was a *gasp* bowling alley in that area of Utica Square until 1964 or thereabouts.

Owned by Ted Seiler who also owned Sheridan Lanes.....
 

swake

Quote from: SXSW on January 13, 2016, 10:45:04 PM
Is this a possibility?  I hope Petty's lands somewhere else in Tulsa.

The owner said was 50/50 that they would open a new location.

Breadburner

Bumgarner should do something good for the city and help put Pettys at 15th and Uitca........
 

AquaMan

Situated near a new store around the corner on 15th (I forget the name), a popular farmers market on Saturdays, and the nearby Reasors which has made improvements to their store would make it hard to succeed there. However, I agree the demographics are right.

I think a location just south of downtown would be good too.
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TulsaGoldenHurriCAN

Brady would really be a great place right now. In terms of foot traffic at all hours of the day, Brady seems to be the best downtown right now. Blue Dome would be another neat spot but I can't think of a specific location for a grocery store right now.

The place at the west corner of Main and Brady (across the street west from the Tavern) was rumored to be a mini-mart/convenient store a long time ago. It looks like some part of that building could be a location for a Perrys, if scaled down a bit.

The Brady District is a much more interesting place to walk around than Utica Square. I have been to the Brady District dozens of times in the last year for various events, to eat, meet friends or just walk around. I have been to Utica Square maybe once or twice for lunch and a Thursday concert. Utica Square is nice but it is boring and is an old-fashioned suburban mall with not much to do for men if you hate Starbucks.

Brady has better food options, bars, art galleries, shops and much better coffee (Chimera!). It might be a more promising location for Perrys because the demand is there for a grocery store already with thousands of new residents on the way. Also, Brady has become a destination for First Friday Art Crawls, soccer/baseball and Guthrie Green. If there was a grocer, they'd get people coming in for picnic stuff along with big peaks during events which they don't get at Utica. They would lose a lot of the upscale customers but they'd gain new customers in an ever increasing demographic of urban dwellers. I know I would go there more if it were in the Brady District. It is nice to be able to grab a cold drink or snack when you're walking around there. They would probably need to stay open somewhat late on weekends.

DowntownDan

Downtown would be a good place to relocate.  The new residents would probably be willing to pay a few extra dollars to avoid getting in their cars and going to Reasors at 15th and Lewis.  They could probably also drop the "Fine Foods" moniker too and still be profitable.  The upscale identity probably made more sense at Utica Square next to Miss Jacksons than it would anywhere else.

Townsend

Quote from: DowntownDan on January 15, 2016, 11:31:15 AM
Downtown would be a good place to relocate.  The new residents would probably be willing to pay a few extra dollars to avoid getting in their cars and going to Reasors at 15th and Lewis.  They could probably also drop the "Fine Foods" moniker too and still be profitable.  The upscale identity probably made more sense at Utica Square next to Miss Jacksons than it would anywhere else.

I thought I saw a plan for a grocery store to go in the PAC lot.

dbacksfan 2.0



SXSW

A Petty's-sized and style store makes the most sense downtown.  I would still like to see an urban Reasors on the PAC lot and Petty's in Riverview (15th & Main area).  Lots of opportunity for residential infill directly around there and close proximity to high income households that don't want to go to Reasors at 41st & Peoria or 15th & Lewis, or to Whole Foods. 
 

swake

Quote from: SXSW on January 15, 2016, 02:00:56 PM
A Petty's-sized and style store makes the most sense downtown.  I would still like to see an urban Reasors on the PAC lot and Petty's in Riverview (15th & Main area).  Lots of opportunity for residential infill directly around there and close proximity to high income households that don't want to go to Reasors at 41st & Peoria or 15th & Lewis, or to Whole Foods. 

There's the old Safeway store at 18th and Boston, it's currently an art gallery.

Conan71

Quote from: swake on January 15, 2016, 02:02:12 PM
There's the old Safeway store at 18th and Boston, it's currently an art gallery.

I always thought the old Safeway was where Burnco and Dalesandro's is.  Here's a thread on this from 2009, honestly I can't picture in my mind which building this facade is on and I was just at BC on Tuesday.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=13643.30
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