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Started by Conan71, September 25, 2015, 09:26:32 AM

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cannon_fodder

Kill the two party system. It has always been stupid.

The Republicans should be several different parties:

1. The Conservative Christian Party
Simply a theist party. This is the anti-abortion party. The anti-gay rights party. The anti-Muslim party. Anything the right pounds the bible while saying, this party stands for. But, far and away, abortion is their #1 unifying point. #2 is doing anything for Israel. They have a mandate from God, politics is not about compromise - it is about doing HIS will.

2. Fiscal Conservatives
Small government republicans. #1 focus is on destroying government at all levels, except the military. Particularly interested in cutting social welfare programs and education.

3. The "Americans!"
Primary focus is stopping immigration and fighting change in general. For 'Merica!

4. I'm rich, and you're not!
Party spends their tie convincing poor people they can be rich too, if we just pass more laws favoring the rich. Flat taxes, eliminating corporate income tax, tax free investment income, and ceasing public funding for any program that can help other people become rich (subsidized college, for example).

5. The Republicans
The legacy party. Interested in a balance of the above, but willing to compromise in the interest of a big tent. The economy is the priority, which means the need for government spending as well as immigration. This balance requires compromise, like an adult.


The Democrats are currently less divided, but they have a few too:

1. The Greens.
Everything else be damned, think of mother earth.

2. The Socialists
Whatever the Nordic Countries have, we want it.

3. The Social Democrats
Equality all around! Black people, gay people, Muslim people, and anyone that needs "help." Free college and government programs to help everyone out. If everyone was just given a chance, we'd all thrive for sure - everyone is a winner!

4. Labor
If it is good for labor unions, it is good for America. Tax policy and corporate regulation would be a big deal. Buzz words include "regressive" and "1%ers."

5. The Democrats
Legacy party. Tries to balance the above interests without using the words "socialist" or "mother earth."  These things take money, which means you cant destroy the economy. Has to compromise, like an adult.

Then we can add other special interest parties:

- Legalize It
- Western State Republicans who Love 'Merica but hate the Federal Government
- The "Save the [insert name here]" party
- The we really hate [insert name here]  party
- - - - - - - - -
I crush grooves.

carltonplace

1 2 and 3 are all covered by the Tea Party splinter calling itself the "Freedom Party". They don't get that the only freedom they espouse is "Freedom from taxes" or "Freedom from common sense". All other personal freedoms they intend to quash if it flies in the face of their personal religious conviction.

Conan71

Quote from: carltonplace on September 29, 2015, 10:38:40 AM
1 2 and 3 are all covered by the Tea Party splinter calling itself the "Freedom Party". They don't get that the only freedom they espouse is "Freedom from taxes" or "Freedom from common sense". All other personal freedoms they intend to quash if it flies in the face of their personal religious conviction.

Hahahahaha!  I originally read "splinter" as "sphincter".   :o
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

House To Vote On New Speaker Next Week

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/house-vote-new-speaker-next-week

QuoteIf all goes as planned, the House will know who its next speaker will be by the end of next week. Elections for the next House leadership will be held on Thursday, October 8 — a date outgoing Speaker John Boehner said he came to after consulting the Republican conference.

Boehner's office released this statement from the speaker:

After consulting with our conference, a large majority of our members have made clear they want these elections held next week. With their considerations in mind, the House leadership elections will take place on Thursday, October 8.
Boehner announced last week that he would give up the speakership and his House seat at the end of October.

California Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy, Boehner's current number two, announced earlier this week that he will run for Speaker. "If elected Speaker, I promise you that we will have the courage to lead the fight for our conservative principles and make our case to the American people," McCarthy wrote. Boehner had been criticized for not doing enough to fight for conservative principles. McCarthy is promising to be more open-ear to conservatives and more willing to have more an aggressive message.

There are two declared candidates for speaker — McCarthy is running against Daniel Webster of Florida. There are also two declared candidates for majority leader.

It's a hand-to-hand campaign, and McCarthy spent the weekend literally calling every single member of the House Republican conference, asking them what their concerns are, what they want, what they need and what he's going to do for them. McCarthy is also likely to meet with the caucus members ahead of the elections.

The speaker of the House is elected by the whole House, but it of course important going forward for the future speaker to have the support of his Republican colleagues.

The election will likely give the House Freedom Caucus — roughly three dozen of the most conservative Republicans — more say in the House. They don't have a candidate that could win the speakership but they have enough members to really decide what the next speaker should say and do.

That means the next speaker may not have it any easier than Boehner did — and his biggest challenge will still be to get a majority of the House on board with any issue Republicans want to push.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: TulsaMoon on September 28, 2015, 04:08:23 PM
Whoa, slow down... That's exactly the thinking of conservatives years ago. Nancy P and Obama. Let them get elected and watch how crazy things get, rub noses in it and then no one will ever want that sh&t again... Well now, look how that worked out. People are so fed up with the normal political options that a hair piece is leading in the polls. Dems had the chance to make a just and lasting world vision, they mostly blew it. Now a new world vision is emerging... Walk slowly and put the cat down, this is going to be one heck of a ride.


RWRE never thought along those lines....they have always been anti- everything.  Never pro- anything.
As for Dems...well, they never had much of a vision to make a "just and lasting world vision".  Probably the last one to have anything even close to a "vision" was Hubert Humphrey....and maybe a little bit of Jimmy Carter.  We as 'Mericans dont want a visionary world.  Ever.  We want our beer (notice how prickly EVERYONE here gets when they have to consider any topic that doesn't involve Marshall's....or any one of dozens of local brew topics?), some pizza, and college football.  That pretty much covers the important stuff...

Hairpiece (no relation to heir...) is leading because he is spewing what extremist, bigoted, racists everywhere have thought and acted on for a long, long, time.

I still say Hairpiece is gonna drop out - he doesn't want the job, he just wants the key to the back door of the White House when one of the other clowns gets elected - Republicontin or Dummiecrat.


The only product from the "vision" of either of those two clown-shows is the one painted by Paul Theroux.  They are taking us back at least 100 years to the time of robber barons and even more corruption than now, if that is possible (it is!).  He just got it on the wrong continent and river....


Down the Yangtze the awful prediction has been fulfilled.  You expect this river trip to be an experience of the past - and it is.  But it is also a glimpse of the future. In a hundred years or so, under a cold uncolonized moon, what we call the civilized world will all look like China, muddy and senile and old-fangled: no trees, no birds, and shortages of fuel and metal and meat; but plenty of pushcarts, cobblestones, ditch-diggers, and wooden inventions. Nine hundred million farmers splashing through puddles and the rest of the population growing weak and blind working the crashing looms in black factories.




"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Townsend



Kevin McCarthy Gone, In 60 Seconds

Someone have something juicy on this cat?

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/kevin-mccarthy-gone-60-seconds

QuoteThere was chaos on Capitol Hill on Thursday after front-runner Rep. Kevin McCarthy withdrew his name from the House speakership election. The closed-door House Republican meeting that was supposed to emerge with a speaker nominee spilled out into the hallway outside of the House Ways and Means Room in the Longworth Office Building. That's where reporters rushed lawmakers to find out exactly what had happened and where the conference might go from here.

Here's a peek into that hallway, in 60 seconds:

Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a more conservative alternative running against McCarthy, called the announcement "absolutely stunning":

"Look, it was totally, it was just absolutely stunning what happened. Nobody anticipated that that was going to happen. I love Kevin McCarthy; he's a good man and that was a tough thing to do, but God bless him."

Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., offered his own re-enactment of McCarthy's decision:

"'I am not the one' is what he said. 'I am not the one to get to 218.' I don't know if that was possible or not, he apparently decided he'd much rather stay as majority leader."

The House GOP announced it was postponing the speakership election, and almost immediately, rumors started around who else might enter the race.

Some called for a "caretaker" speaker — someone who could keep the speaker seat warm until new elections can be held in January 2017. That would likely be a senior member who wouldn't run in '17.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., said a caretaker would help the party "stay unified in our basic principles":

"I think it'd be better to have a caretaker so we can stay unified in our basic principles rather than focus around a personality."

One of Rohrabacher's suggestions for a caretaker was Rep. Hal Rogers of Kentucky. Only Rogers wasn't on board:

"I don't think I'm the person for it."

Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., addressed something of an elephant in the hallway — a compromise he said people "may not want to talk about," but he said could be a "very real possibility":

"We may need a bipartisan coalition to elect the next speaker, that's a very real possibility right now, and I think everybody who's honest about this knows it."

Rep. Daniel Webster, R-Fla. — another candidate running for speaker who was endorsed by the House Freedom Caucus — didn't call for bipartisanship but instead for Republicans to "come together and be a group":

"I think there's this real desire for us to come together and be a group. A group that's coalesced around the idea of moving forward."

Despite all the chaos, Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., seemed confident that the Republican Party will find its way:

"Again, we're in kind of, somewhat, chaotic territory, but we will find a way through this and it's going to be a way that serves our party and the American people the best."

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on October 09, 2015, 12:55:35 PM


Kevin McCarthy Gone, In 60 Seconds

Someone have something juicy on this cat?

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/kevin-mccarthy-gone-60-seconds


Probably a toe-tapping incident or playing hide the salami with House pages.

Right wing pundits seem to think it might have to do with his slip that the whole purpose behind the Bengazi committee was to sully Hillary's presidential bid.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on October 09, 2015, 03:05:50 PM

Right wing pundits seem to think it might have to do with his slip that the whole purpose behind the Bengazi committee was to sully Hillary's presidential bid.

Like that was a big secret.